NWO has SA in its sights. (part 1)

[pmbguy]

The thing that I find a bit strange is that you think that all this stuff is new....why? The world has always been a battleground between states. Espionage, covert activities and propaganda is nothing new. The stuff you bring up is so basic it is the kind of stuff you learn in foreign policy studies 101. Because you think this is something new and you think people don’t know about it you call it evidence of a NWO. My friend if you read a few history books (Not just a paragraph here and there on the internet) you will find that all this stuff you think you are blowing our minds with is not new and it is certainly not evidence of a NWO.

You simply use this thread to copy and paste things from the internet, thinking you blowing our minds. Most of it has been in the public domain for a long time. You combine crazy bullshit stories and run of the mill global realities into a long list of copy and paste orgies.

I have still to see you have a discussion (in your own words) on anything. Are you capable of debating anything?

[Trickzta]

In my own words.

Pmguy, what history books do you refer to? Vague might be fashionable, but it remains vague.

History is fascinating, especially when you know the truth behind the censored BS most history books portray.

So I'll ask again, which books do you refer to? The one the winners wrote? The one that covers up the truth? The one that is factually flawed and one-sided? The Readers Digest?

Moving on.
Get real. What is new? Well if you discount previous ancient civilisations of which very little is known at present, then....

New is a term used to distinguish the difference in relation to the past or previous person, occurence etc.

New could also be a concept that has been debated and discussed for centuries, without the means to bring it about.

The concept could be called new until it has been implemented, and called new for some time after implimentation.

Splitting hairs is not new.

Never before was there real time communication capabilities on a global scale.

Never before was technology as advanced as it is today.

Never before was psychology and audiovisual media used for mind control.

Never before was war waged using TV coverage and propaganda as a tool to gain victory.

Never before was there a real threat manifest in every piece of real estate on this planet.

Never before could a war of enormous proportions be waged anywhere on the planet. Military mobility today is unmatched in scale and time taken to mobilise to the extent of deserving the tag 'New'.

Never before was there a global
policeman. A policeman above the law he enforces.

Never before was social media a way of organising protests in such an efficient manner. Fellow protesters were informed of strategies by authorities in an attempt to regain control, on a minute to minute basis.

Never before was social media capable of inciting civil disobediance on a scale as is the case today.

Never before had an oppressive and abusive minority ceded power to an overwhelming majority, without a backlash of a violent nature pre or post transfer of power.


Never before were so many so completely fooled by so few.

Come to think about it, what is new about South Africa? Regime change on the cards?

Cut and paste is something I acknowledged before anyone mentioned it. Not all my posts are of that nature, but nice try anyway.

Are you capable of debating in a mature fashion? As in not getting personal with childish insults?

If yes, then choose a subject and fire the first salvo. Let the debate begin.

Tomorrow is a new day. But don't ask me what is new about it. The date maybe. Who knows?

Bring it on my friend, I accept the challenge.

[pmbguy]

Good day Trickzta

I would like to start off by thanking YOU for responding.

I agree with you that history is written by the victor. What is contained in history books is will only ever be the half truth. Very often we only hear the truth after declassification many years later, however this certainly does not mean we ever hear the whole truth. Technically and practically the truth of history about anything can never be ascertained. We can only ever be closer or further from the truth.

My biggest issue with your evidence and style of “debate” is the schizophrenic nature in which it is presented. Let me explain. You pick and choose totally random bits of info with absolutely no coherence. You jumble together all sorts of information from conspiracy theories to declassified actions of the CIA. You do all of this without ever stopping to discuss any one point in particular. You don’t actually debate any point you simply use (coining a new phrase) “Shotgun-Linking”, which is bad in its own right but the links are not even about the same subject.

You provide all this info with no personal evaluation of the information nor do you come to any conclusion. Given your style of “debate” it is impossible for anybody to have a constructive debate with you.

It seems that the only time when you write your own thoughts is when you are challenged for not writing your own thoughts.

At this point I cannot debate any particular point with you because you have no actual stance on anything. It’s all written by other people.

Debate is about using the information that you have and articulating your own thoughts on the matter. It’s about having a reasoned discussion about the premises, not the continual presentation of premises (shotgun linking). You need to make your OWN conclusions (however tentative that may be) and use that as a starting point of a discussion/debate. By using your own words and thoughts you build a solid understanding of your own knowledge on the matter. Without articulating your own thoughts on the thread you cannot have a debate, nor will you ever influence anybody else.

May I give you some humble advice. Pick one area relating to the NWO (E.g. the UN) then discuss what your conclusions are in your own words, make it short and to the point. E.g The UN supports the NWO because of x y z... Then you and other people can widen the discussion on any particular point on your original post. This is just off the cuff but I think you get the idea.
It’s like writing an essay for the exams. You white in your own words. You provide the premises you provide your conclusion and the reasons to back up your conclusions etc etc... You only use the links as a reference to where your information comes from.

I am not perfect. I also don’t wish to seem preachy, but please consider what I have written.

[Trickzta]

And your point is?

[pmbguy]

Look... I understand that you are struggling with having to write posts on your cell phone. I know how shit that is, however a post written in your own hand is worth 100 copy and paste posts. You are good at telling us what others say, but what do you think? Lets discuss your thoughts on the matter. Its impossible for anybody to debate a link because the link does not talk back. You will only be able to bring your point across successfully by your own hand.

I don’t want to come across as a thread Nazi, but in your case I feel you and others who participate in this thread will benefit greatly once You participate. You have allot of vested interest on this topic so let’s hear your thoughts, assessments and conclusions on the matter. I bet it would make this tread very interesting indeed.

I wish you the best of luck

Regards
pmbguy

[Trickzta]

http://antranik.org/50-random-mind-blowing-fun-facts/

http://www.noupe.com/inspiration/50-mind-blowing-photo-manipulations.html

http://businessboomcollective.com/0612/25-mind-blowing-optical-illusions/

[pmbguy]

Glad to see you took my advice onboard

[Trickzta]

Just playing the fool. I have taken notice of all advice to date.

Advice is easy to give, harder to accept. I'm considering all the input I've been given.

After I started this thread, I discovered that Adriaan had already started a thread concerning Marikana. I gave it some time and thought. Now the question remains.

Should I post it on Adriaan's thread? Or my own?

Thanks for your input so far pmguy, what route do you suggest I take?

[pmbguy]

If there is already a thread on Marikana then you should probably post it there. Unless of course it concerns the NWO then this is the spot.

[adrianh]

Start your own tread so that we have a fresh battleground

[HR Solutions]

Sheweee ........

[Trickzta]

Trickzta > Did you know that misinformation does more harm than good?

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Teco’s Time Piece?
Without media disinformation and war propaganda, which offensively pervade the global news chain, the legitimacy of the US-NATO military agenda would collapse like a deck of cards.
http://www.globalresearch.ca/keep-th...dia-lies/32366

[Trickzta]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O56d-xd8AuM

A leaked video

Marikana was a psyop type setup. Zuma was away at the time. The military was involved, at the request of the Police. Four mortuary vans ordered before 9.00am on the day of the slaughter.

The crowd was not aggressive, they walked then ran into a trap.

Al-Jazeera is not as independent/unbiased as they’ll have you believe.

Hey, pmguy, sorry buddy I’m not sure I can tell this story as well as this does.

http://groundup.org.za/content/marinovich-marikana-and-journalism

[pmbguy]

Hey boet it’s your thread you can quote r2d2 for all that I care

[pmbguy]

It would be nice though to hear what your opinion on the matter is...