judgement day for spilling a drink

[murdock]

or was it? is that the big question.

i just dont get what all the fuss is about...JZ can take a shower after a life threating experience...yet if he gets a drink spilt on him (which apparently didnt even touch him because of the body gaurds reaction time)...he makes it a life changing experince for the person who spilt the drink.

was it an accident? if so do you think they are making a big fuss over nothing

if it was deliberate...do you think the punishment fit the crime...R100 000 court case and severe punishemnt...the criminals get away with less for murder...even promoted to chief of police(mcbride) shame he only killed 2 people and injured a couple of us in magoos bombing...maybe if more were killed he would have been promoted to minister.

[Perform Computers]

Please post a link to this article.

[murdock]

i was listening to the dj on east coast radio last night on my way home...she made a comment then got the reaction she was or wasnt looking for but it backfired...then it turned racial as most things do when there is a disagreement.

http://in.reuters.com/article/2011/07/27/idINIndia-58484620110727

this is the story

[Perform Computers]

Truly pathetic. Honestly. Acting like a child prosecuting someone for this.

[adrianh]

They gotta da prosacuted because they spilt da whisky, if it was Black Label it would have been fine

[Dave A]

A small clue to the testimony that the court must have heard to arrive at that verdict:

His attorney told the court earlier that Peense was drunk at the time and only a small quantity of whisky was spilled from his glass. He had no intention of injuring the president.

I see sentencing is set down for 7th September. The arguments for that should be interesting.

[tec0]

If I was this man I would go to the international courts of the UN. If a man’s life can be destroyed because he was drunk in a facility that serves alcohol legally for the intention of getting people intoxicated and the president’s bodyguard allowed him to get close enough in the first place then I don’t know anymore.

It’s not right people must not fear for their lives every-time a government official is out and about.

[adrianh]

Hmmm, this lot isn't as straight forward as one might think. The guy was on the balcony above Zuma. When he poured the drink over the balcony the bodyguard reached over and stopped the drink from falling on Zuma's shower cap. The guy says it happened because he was drunk and because somebody bumped into him. Tough one, what would be the outcome if the guy did it on purpose, how do we know he didn't.

I think the question is whether this is something that JZ should get his panties in a knot about? But then, the problem is if they don't prosecute him then the balconies will be lined with people tossing drinks on JZ's head. I'll be right there with a cheap Bergie papsak!

[tec0]

Still, if a drunk man spills a drink because A> he is Drunk B> the place sold him the alcohol legally to get drunk and C> our president is beneath him. Then we call this scenario “bad luck” And a simple apology would have been good enough if any other person was standing there so the human factor comes in to play here.

If this man gets prison time or anything like that, then the people of this country has the right to ask any member of government to stay away from social gatherings because how many more lives will be destroyed in this manner?

Then it is only right to remove the possibility of interaction.

[adrianh]

And if he dumped the glass of whiskey on the presidents head on purpose, what then?

[wynn]

I'll be right there with a cheap Bergie papsak!

Frozen solid of course??? ;D

[tec0]

And if he dumped the glass of whiskey on the presidents head on purpose, what then?

Well let’s assume the man did so full knowing that the president was standing beneath him. First thing to consider is that the man was indeed intoxicated and will not act rationally. Second thing to consider he was at an establishment where people can buy alcohol legally and is allowed to be intoxicated within this establishment.

So was the man fully conscious of his actions? Was it planned? Could the Presidential guards prevent his actions?

The serious answer is if a drunk can get an opportunity to demonstrate his disproval by spilling a drink on the president. Then what other opportunities exist for a sober more serious attacker?

The facts are this: The opportunity should never have existed.

The man could have been removed by security so that he would not have had access to the balcony to start with. As it is a clear security risk.

So again the problem must be removed. If an important government official is in the aria then rather remove the people and or find another more secure location.

Accident or no accident, the security personnel could have prevented this scenario by being effective.

They knew or is suppose to know the building and is suppose to know if someone can get “close” within reason to the protected person.

[adrianh]

And if the guy dropped a brick instead of a drink?

[murdock]

what amazes me is that thesecurity was fast enough to cover the president before the liquid actually came into contact...i would love to have been a fly on the wall or seen footage filmed of this incident...all i know is intentional or not this fella is paying dearly for his action...i just hope for my sake i never come close to any goverment official...on the weekend whiled driving home from work...i was almost hit by 2 black vehicles travelling at extremley high speed with blue lights flashing on the dash boards...they just missed my vehicle...the joke is they cut the corner and where on the wrong side of the road...i just thought after the incident just image if they had hit my vehicle...the kak that i would been blamed for and the hassles i would go through...they would probably make up some cock and bull story that i had tried to attack them or something riduculous

[adrianh]

Here is a thought, I wonder what would have happened if the guy was a black ANC supporter....I am sure it would have a tragic forgiveable accident!