Malema a monster in the making

[sgafc]

It goes much Deeper!

Yes, few want to believe the conspiratorial views of things! But as a famous politician said once. "Rest assured if certain things happen IN POLITICS, it was PLANNED that way".

South Africa's politicians are in the Iron Grip of very evil people lurking in the shadows manipulating events. Now I am not going to give you things pulled from some nutcase website, but just 1) Common Sense, and 2) Personal Experience.

Who funded the ANC all these years, when the Aborigines in Australia could not find anybody to listen to their plight? The Rothchilds, Royal Dutch Shell(Remember Shell House?)

Ever seen the names that crop up in many of the scandals? The links to oil and drug barons.

I vividly recall being invited, to a stunning home on the slopes of Table Mountain while on holiday in Cape Town, for a braai, in December 2003, by a friend in The ANC youth league. Guess what, the house was owned by the late Brett Kebble. After his murder it was revealed that this man was bank rolling the league and its members.

These young lions and many in the ANC are taking "kick backs" from people with questionable backgrounds. read Noseweek, and one can see how deep the Rabbit Hole goes.

Why is the ANC, a socalled Non Racial party, build by people of all races becoming a racist party? 20 years ago Mandela pleaded with whites to stay and build the country. Today whites are told to F-off if they want to leave.

I dont care what your political beliefs are, but something does not add up. Are these dark forces behind the ANC, poisining it up from within, disentegrating it along tribal lines, and creating so much mayhem so that a SAVIOUR,can just move in at the right time? I dont know..

I was in the UDF in the 80"s with all races, fighting for social justice. The UDF, an ANC ally, I remember, never allowed any type off racism or tribalism. Whites(although a minority) languished in jail, and was even murdered by the security forces.

Todays ANC leaders spit racial venom, while taking the rewards from their WHITE handlers, who were nowhere to be found during the Apartheid Years!

[IanF]

Sean
Your insight is really eye opening. You ask what happened. It looks like it started with the arms deal. Did you read the opinion piece by Desmond Tutu et al. in yesterday's Sunday Times. The link is here Sunday Times article.

The arms deal constituted the largest military transfer in history between industrialised countries and Africa. Now, more than a decade later, we are sad and concerned that the concerns we raised were well founded. The arms deal is described by the Institute For Democracy in South Africa (Idasa) as "the litmus test of South Africa's commitment to democracy and good governance". As predicted, the arms deal unleashed a culture of corruption that has severely undermined the transition in South Africa from apartheid to democracy. Non-delivery riots all over the country express public perceptions that the procurement of very costly military goods was given priority before combating the devastating legacy of the apartheid era.

Now maybe the conspiracy theories are right and the corruption and the illuminati have a basis and don't appear so crackpot. The question still remains if the ANC don't deserve to lead us which party can defeat them in an election and run the country?

[sgafc]

True Revolutionaries

Thats my answer. Mavericks, people who think for themselves and get rid of these politicians. Dont think that the DA has the answers. They have made a mess of some municipalities, and my experience with them(in business), has shocked the living daylights out of me.

Consider this: Steve Biko, a Black Nationalists, who promoted mental emancipation of the Black Man, self reliance and hard work-MURDERED!

Patrice Lumamba: True Independence from corporate control-Murdered

Malcolm X: A racist Black seperatist at First, but killed when he promoted racial reconciliation and peace between Black and White.

Chris Hani: A Radical Communist, but taken out when he became critical of the ANC,

John Lennon: A peaceful musician, killed for asking people to live in PEACE.

The list is endless. Awake the revolutionary in you. Not a violent one, but the ONE that strives for peace.

[sgafc]

My point of the previous post is this;

Talk racism and evil and divide people and you safe. But as soon as one talks about reconciliation, peace and UNITY of mankind you branded a "revolutionary". You become a marked person.

Thats the simple answer.

We constantly bicker about getting the "right" party into government, who represents us. This is utter bullsh*t. This is giving responsibility away. WE CAN LEAD. I dont have all the answers, but know that democracy is not working.

Just look at people going about their lives and couldnt care a hoot about politics. Having said that, I still think people have a role to play. Maybe in Civil Society, ie religion, associations, media etc.

Remember: Everybody wants something from Government But the Government takes from Everybody!!

[tec0]

sgafc>> You have a lot of passion.

Still let’s understand that peace always had a heavy price. Yes good people have been lost for no real reason. Whatever the future hold for us, whatever choices are made we have to understand that politics in general is based on a “point of few�

If a “point of few� is shared by the masses then there will not be change only more of the same. In the end we will have anarchy and Africa have many such stories and within these stories it is always the poor that suffers.

When the rich wage war, it's the poor who die.
by: Jean-Paul Sartre

[sgafc]

So do you Tec0
What a boring world this would have been if we all agreed with each other.
Having said that,I cant believe the fear that one man(Malema) has, and continues to instill in South Africa in general, but whites in particular, when there are greater things at play behind the scenes.

Yes, Africa has always been doomed.
But something bizzarre is happening in Southern Africa. My research into the Secret Brotherhood(Illuminati) fortunately enabled me to explain(to myself)many of the occurrences in Southern Africa.Despite farms being confiscated in Zimbabwe from small farmers. Certain elite families from Europe still own vasts tracts of land in that poor country. See the trend, bully poor white folks, but take the cash from the RICH white folk in Europe or elsewhere. See the Zimbabwe dictator also asociated himself with criminals such as diamond and oil smugglers and the notorious Billy Rautenbach(a rich white man protected by a Black Racist), a high ranking criminal, protected by Mugabe. Still to be arrested by South AFrican authorities for local crimes, nothin done to date.

As greatful as I am for the peaceful transition in RSA, I remain flummoxed that the country suddenly saw "peace" after the 1994 elections. When all countries go through a bloody revolution first.

I remain skeptical about the multi-nationals involvement in South Africa.
The depreciation/ appreciation of the rand and the manipulation of the gold price as well as the ARMS DEAL remains a mystery.

The dissappearance from the political landscape of sane politicians, in and outside of the ANC, is clearly orchestrated. And I have yet to see the rand collapsing due to Malema and company's statements, but the rand crashed apparently in 1987, due to Trevor Manuel and Mbeki's(no angel) utterances at that time.

SA remains strategic to International Interests, be it economical, regional or the "far fetched" New World Order plans.

[Dave A]

And I have yet to see the rand collapsing due to Malema and company's statements, but the rand crashed apparently in 1987, due to Trevor Manuel and Mbeki's(no angel) utterances at that time.

SA remains strategic to International Interests, be it economical, regional or the "far fetched" New World Order plans.

I'm sure you meant 1997 - and yes, I tend to agree; a lesson was being handed out by big money in that episode.

If not in driving the run itself, then at least in not supporting the S A Reserve Bank in its efforts at the time.

[tec0]

Truth is a situation exists because the point of view exists. Basically one must ask why? And if you think it is about “the new world order� I will not say you are wrong. If you say it is about history, you will find no argument from me.

Fact is, I have moved beyond conspiracy, government and history and basses my actions on survival. The point I am making is, if someone wants to promote instability rather ignore and hope others will ignore because if they don’t then they will have instability and eventually there will be nothing left to fight about.

[twinscythe12332]

humanity has always had an underlying dislike of one another. often enough, this can be likened to a boulder on the top of a hill. it takes a bit of effort to get the boulder rolling, but once it has begun to roll, it becomes increasingly more difficult to stop it. All that is left when the boulder has stopped is a wake of destruction.
Dreams of peace and stability will forever remain dreams, especially now that the world is being drawn together by the internet. The world is small enough as it is.

[sgafc]

1997

Yes Dave, I meant 1997, sorry for the confusion friends!!

[sgafc]

Malema Was Always a Monster!!

All the Callers to a radio station expressed their disgust with Malema's treatment of the BBC journalist yesterday. Understandable, but this was coming from a black radio station, with a following from an age range between 18 and 40, considered to be Malema's turf.

The so called ANC mouthpiece-Sowetan had this to say in their editorial,this morning.
"Obviously his jaunt across the Limpopo hasnt done him good. At 29 he is now spewing the sort of bile previously thought to be the sole preserve of senile leaders such as Mad Bob Mugabe." it ends with, Somebody, anybody, please save Malema from himself.

Google Malema+ Kebble, and a range of sites open showing facts on the frauds, corporate failures, bailouts and other scandals linking to the youth league. The young lions have been calling the shots for some time now.Remember who kicked Mbeki out.

How can ANC mayors be fired for the silliest of thigs, but Malema can get away with anything?

[sterne.law@gmail.com]

i think the heading of this thread should be changed, which is what I thought
Malema a Monster in the making - Should read

Malema a MONSTER

when it was first started and certainly now I dont think it i know it.

[Jacques#1]

Remember what happened to Chris Hani? Whats your opinions on the same happening to Malema?

[Jacques#1]

What I mean by this...political leaders all across the world gets assasinated on "regular" basis? Whos to say that he's not next in line...and don't think I am saying a white man will do it, hes got enemies everywhere including the ANC. I have spoken to a few black guys and they all think his an %$#, and they are all ANC, and in their mid twenties????

[denver33]

Malema is slowly removing the colour from the rainbow

Don't you think a better question is what kind of society do we have for this kind of person to still be in a position of influence?

Malema reminds me of a teenager who is completely out of control. My question here is that is our society at large busy creating a monster who one day might rule our country. There are an awful lot of this type of individual running countries throughout Africa.

Do we really want this to happen here.
Butch Hannan