What are the pointers for a flawed leader?

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  • Dave A
    Site Caretaker

    • May 2006
    • 22807

    #1

    What are the pointers for a flawed leader?

    You can measure the potential for failure by the number of bodyguards a politician has. The bigger the convoy, the more likely he is to fail, to be a dictator.
    ~William Mervyn Gumede~
    extract from M&G article here

    Quite a hard-hitting little article, that.
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  • IanF
    Moderator

    • Dec 2007
    • 2680

    #2
    Dave
    Thanks for the link. This spoke to me even more.
    So the danger is not past?
    This is our tipping-point. From here things will go downhill; no liberation movement has moved upwards from this point. The [ANC] coalition is holding because there's an election to be won. Afterwards the left will have to come to terms with the business and the populist elements in the coalition; this is a postponed fight. The unions should have supported policies, not an individual.
    I hope he is wrong.
    Only stress when you can change the outcome!

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    • garthu
      Gold Member

      • Dec 2008
      • 595

      #3
      Wow, quite a nasty article really, but the sad reality, i think someone who has the guts to say and see it for all it is. Mentioned before i know, but say it again, as an ex zim the signs and actions of this government are EXACTLY the same as what occured in Zim. How is it then that anyone can think the outcome will be any different?
      He's hit the nail on the head with politicians and why they are chosen as well. The problem becomes self perpetuating with time. Its not Mugabe does not want to step down - he's tired, cant cope. It's he cannot step down for his safety and cronies. They are responsible for corruption, genocide, murder etc. If he steps down, they all go down .. prison and the likes. They are forced to retain control or suffer the ultimate humiliation

      Its becoming the same. ANC cant lose. If they do, to many questions to be answered, to much money lost. The money is still there so fight for 2 causes.
      Garth

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      • Dave A
        Site Caretaker

        • May 2006
        • 22807

        #4
        It is quite a big picture article!

        Reading between the lines, it seems the best thing that can happen is the "liberation party" loses an election and gets replaced with a party built on a democracy base as soon as possible.
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        • garthu
          Gold Member

          • Dec 2008
          • 595

          #5
          Oh the possibility and thought of that is just to much! Anyway it was a nice dream... I'd say spot on, exactly what he is saying. Mark my words though... it will be rigged before that is allowed. I really hope and wish i could be wrong..
          Garth

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          • duncan drennan
            Email problem

            • Jun 2006
            • 2642

            #6
            Originally posted by garthu
            Anyway it was a nice dream...
            As long as we think of it as a pipe–dream it will never happen. We have to starting thinking and acting like it will happen...because it will.

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            • garthu
              Gold Member

              • Dec 2008
              • 595

              #7
              Yup you right. I tend to get to negative about these things and need to be put in my place every once and while
              Garth

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              • wynn
                Diamond Member

                • Oct 2006
                • 3338

                #8
                Eish!! One man one vote once!! at least we have had two elections with a third looming, but is this the last?
                I hope not.
                Like they said when Mbeki tried for a third term "What was he thinking?"
                I hope the voters tell the ANC "What are you thinking?"
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                • Graeme
                  Silver Member

                  • Sep 2006
                  • 253

                  #9
                  And just this morning Zuma was quoted in the Natal Mercury as saying that there was no room in the ANC for people who are corrupt!

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                  • Dave A
                    Site Caretaker

                    • May 2006
                    • 22807

                    #10
                    This would be the rationale:

                    You are only corrupt if you have been found guilty of corruption. Until that day, it never happened.
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                    • garthu
                      Gold Member

                      • Dec 2008
                      • 595

                      #11
                      This is just much!

                      African National Congress Youth League president Julius Malema, who has ducked a public debate with his counterpart in the DA, instead wants a public spar with opposition leader Helen Zille.

                      Speaking on Cape Talk/702 Talk Radio on Tuesday, Malema labelled DA youth leader Khume Ramulifho a below-par politician who was only interested in raising his political profile at his (Malema's) expense.
                      Full article IOL

                      Malema for president!
                      Garth

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                      • Dave A
                        Site Caretaker

                        • May 2006
                        • 22807

                        #12
                        a below-par politician who was only interested in raising his political profile at his (Malema's) expense.
                        Unlike Julius, who can be accused of much the same except he isn't nearly as selective about at who's expense it is
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