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  • garthu
    Gold Member

    • Dec 2008
    • 595

    #61
    This country does not have time or space for these two to start having a go each other. We all pay the price when they waste time here.

    I really do disapprove HZ puns and actions - this isn't going to anyone good. She has lost alot of my support, i really don't consider this a leaders actions! A strenuous 4 years of politics! We'll have loads to talk about though...
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    • Dave A
      Site Caretaker

      • May 2006
      • 22807

      #62
      You make a good point, Sean. Helen should learn from JZ and leave the childish goading to the youth leagues. As a leader of a sector of government, she needs to demonstrate positive leadership. The days of scoring cheap shots are over for her now.
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      • Dave A
        Site Caretaker

        • May 2006
        • 22807

        #63
        Here is how you do it:
        The African National Congress (ANC) on Wednesday distanced itself from what it called the ANC Youth League's "deeply embarrassing" attack on Democratic Alliance (DA) leader Helen Zille.

        "The African National Congress distances itself from comments by an ANC Youth League spokesperson yesterday [May 12 2009] about DA leader Helen Zille and her provincial Cabinet," Mantashe said in a statement.

        He said the ruling party strongly objected to Zille's criticism of President Jacob Zuma's sexual conduct that on Tuesday triggered a war of words, but could not tolerate the ANCYL's outburst.
        full story from M&G here
        Like taking candy from a baby.
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        • garthu
          Gold Member

          • Dec 2008
          • 595

          #64
          I would never have guessed that i would be impressed with any anc comments - but they did a got job here. As you say 'candy". HZ has a real challenge getting over of this hurdle. She has really blundered with this comment and quite frankly calling out a president in any country like that - surprised there's not some form of treason charge here. She needs to make right and realise that with such comments, she well never be given the chance to prove (or other) good governance. I'm shocked that she cant see that though - thats what gets me
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          • Marq
            Platinum Member

            • May 2006
            • 1297

            #65
            So... should we suggest that she gets the DA Youth in action (DAYL) and let them have a go at JZ and the ANC while she sits back and says we dont like what they are doing and distance ourselves from it?

            Then we get the DA veterans society in action (young folk that have never seen a war just like the ANC's guys or Zimababwes war vets) and let then declare that they will make the country ungovernable, declare war and that they will take out the leader of the opposition. Then HZ can just sit back and say we dont condone what they are doing - or just ignore this scenario as the ANC are doing right now.

            Putting up a front like like the ANCYL, COSATU, MK or any other militant behind an acronym does not take away the fact that it is still the ANC. The DA just has one front and its leader is now in trouble for taking on these dirty tricks and cheap shots by JZ and his acronyms who are doing nothing to reel in his troops.

            Its not like taking candy its more like trying to give it out to children with bad intentions. As said before it matters not what she says or does, the ANC are intent on bullying her into submission. If she keeps quiet.....they will have won. Is that what democracy is all about?
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            • sgafc
              Bronze Member

              • Mar 2009
              • 175

              #66
              I tend to agree with Copes view, in that there is a difference between vociferous debate, and viciousness and vindictiveness, (from both sides by the way!), we not singling out Zille. As a respected politician, that is far more mature than the league circus, we expected and deserve better.
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              • Dave A
                Site Caretaker

                • May 2006
                • 22807

                #67
                Originally posted by Marq
                So... should we suggest that she gets the DA Youth in action (DAYL) and let them have a go at JZ and the ANC while she sits back and says we dont like what they are doing and distance ourselves from it?
                Absolutely not! The ANCYL is more than enough source of comic relief at the moment.
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                • Dave A
                  Site Caretaker

                  • May 2006
                  • 22807

                  #68
                  As if to prove it has to get worse before it gets better:
                  Plans to constantly hassle new premier Helen Zille with issues across the province - in a bid to force her to take her eye off the ball - have been hatched by the opposition ANC.

                  This has emerged from a leaked report, in the possession of the Cape Argus, agreed to by the party at its post-election provincial lekgotla at the weekend.

                  The plan, according to the report, is to put Zille on the defensive constantly, spreading her widely and thinly across the Western Cape to weaken her.
                  full story from IOL here
                  The one upside - it is a tacit form of acknowledgement that the DA and Zille are considered a serious threat by the ANC. So maybe we will see a meaningful competitor to the ANC one day.

                  But oh dear, this looks set to be a bumpy ride
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                  • Dave A
                    Site Caretaker

                    • May 2006
                    • 22807

                    #69
                    A military strategy for a retreating army is to leave nothing of use to the advancing army - a scorched earth policy.
                    The former African National Congress-run Western Cape administration approved the transfer of more than 1 000ha of prime provincial housing land to the national government the day before the April 22 elections.

                    "This land, worth about half-a-billion rand, and large enough to accommodate nearly 100 000 houses, was transferred free of charge ... without informing the public or the City of Cape Town," the province's new Premier, Helen Zille, told a media briefing in the city on Friday.

                    She said most of the land fell within the Cape Town Metro.
                    full story from M&G here
                    Incredible!
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                    • Dave A
                      Site Caretaker

                      • May 2006
                      • 22807

                      #70
                      Now it is the taxi owners' turn to feel the attitude.
                      TAXI operators will not halt the implementation of the Bus Rapid Transit system and any violence or intimidation will be crushed, Deputy Minister of Transport Jeremy Cronin said yesterday.

                      He told reporters after the bi-weekly Cabinet meeting that the government would not let β€œnarrow financial interests” get in the way of the system’s implementation.

                      Responding to questions about threats to disrupt the official launch of the first phase in Johannesburg on Sunday, he said the government would not be held hostage by taxi operators wanting to β€œelbow” their way into benefiting from the project.

                      Gauteng Premier Nomvula Mokonyane warned yesterday that the government would use state security agencies, including the army, to counter any violence that might occur from Monday.

                      β€œ We will meet those who want to destroy the BRT with possibly greater might,” she said. β€˜β€˜We must begin to demonstrate that we are the state and able to crush those who would blockade the BRT routes. We can’t be held to ransom. Consultation with the taxi industry started four years ago.’’
                      full story from The Times here
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                      • Dave A
                        Site Caretaker

                        • May 2006
                        • 22807

                        #71
                        Thou shalt not question

                        Julius Malema's life is in danger, so he's getting VIP protection. The question - why is the taxpayer footing the bill.

                        In typical ANCYL style, it's none of our business and anyone asking the question is motivated by racism.

                        Of course Julius may excercise his democratic right to sprout forth on whatever he wishes whenever he wishes. He can even change his mind on issues and still never say or do anything worthy of questioning or criticism.

                        Asking that Julius Malema understands the difference between racism and an interest in how our tax money is spent might be too much. But I do hope that Julius will have a better grip on the principles of democracy by the time he becomes our country's president.
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                        • Dave A
                          Site Caretaker

                          • May 2006
                          • 22807

                          #72
                          The Constitutional Court has found that the legislation that paved the way to disbanding the Scorpions is unconstitutional.

                          Well done Hugh Glenister for making the stand.

                          I'm not sure I'm looking forward to reading the ANC reactions to the judgement over the next day or so, though.
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                          • Justloadit
                            Diamond Member

                            • Nov 2010
                            • 3518

                            #73
                            According to JM as per the initial post, they must be racist judges then.
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                            • Dave A
                              Site Caretaker

                              • May 2006
                              • 22807

                              #74
                              Quite pleased to see this positive response from the Hawks.
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                              • Butch Hannan
                                Bronze Member

                                • Dec 2009
                                • 184

                                #75
                                I can think of much stronger words than angry to try and sum up my feelings. The greatest tragedy of this whole scenario is that the poor people are no better off than they were under apartheid. Here are two poems that I wrote in a moment of anger which most probably sum up what is happening:

                                THE Gravy Train

                                Help me! Help me! To get on the gravy train,
                                My child it is easy to get on the gravy train,
                                You must accept what we teach you,
                                You must think and talk the way we do,
                                You must always toe the party line,
                                You must learn to cheat and tell lies,
                                You must learn to manipulate the situation,
                                On graduation you will be deployed,
                                Into a public post with untold opportunity,
                                To steal and pilfer the public coffers,
                                There will be tenders to manipulate,
                                Expense accounts to plunder,
                                Travelling allowances to inflate,
                                Entertainment and more entertainment,
                                My son, you are now in Aladdin’s cave,
                                My son, you will be a millionaire.

                                Butch Hannan

                                SERVICE DELIVERY

                                • The sewerage is overflowing
                                • My children play in it
                                • There is no water in my house
                                • We bathe in a bucket
                                • Mr. Council Man why is this so
                                • Eish!! The pump she is broken.

                                • I wait hours for pension payout
                                • I am old sick and hungry
                                • The queue moves very slowly
                                • I am told to come back the next day
                                • Mr. Council Man why is this so
                                • Eish!! The computer she is too slow

                                • There are holes in the road
                                • The street lights do not work
                                • Storm water comes into my house
                                • Criminals torment me at night
                                • Mr. Council Man why is this so
                                • Eish!! We will investigate

                                • Mr. Council Man you promised me
                                • Mr. Council Man I voted for you
                                • Mr. Council Man why did you lie to me
                                • Mr. Council Man you do not do your job
                                • Mr. Council Man why is this so
                                • Eish!! We will have a meeting
                                http://protest-poetry-south-africa.co.za/

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