Should SA have an early general election?

[Chatmaster]

The irony is that everyone, including themselves know they are lying and the real reason for them to disband the unit. The general public do not agree with disbanding the Scorpions but they still do as they please. In this case they are NOT doing what their employers (voters) are telling them to do, because they know the Scorpions are messing up their agendas. They will simply keep on ignoring this and continue like stupid little kids ensuring that they get political power over the unit. That is the only reason they want it incorporated under the police, so they know that whoever runs the unit reports to them.

[Don]

The general public do not agree with disbanding the Scorpions but they still do as they please

Thats the funny part about Politicians, come time for "Election Campaigns" they will be running around communities and telling them how "The People Shall Govern", as soon as they get in to power they through that out of the window until such time they need the people again.

[Chatmaster]

It is almost as if they believe they are royalty the moment they step into a position of power, amazing if you think that they are actually our servants. Mmmmmmmm thinking about that statement, perhaps I have it completely wrong! We are their servants! I mean they do as they please and if they mess up we have to pay for it to be fixed. Sounds more like children...

[Dave A]

Releasing the Khampepe commission's report on the Scorpions at this juncture will "cause prejudice" to South Africa's national security, says President Thabo Mbeki.

In a letter faxed to the Democratic Alliance (DA) on Wednesday night, Mbeki's office refused the DA's request in terms of the Promotion of Access to Information Act for access to the report.

In the letter, deputy information officer in the Presidency Sibongile Sigodi said the Act allowed for a request to be refused if disclosure "will cause prejudice to the defence, security and international relations of the Republic".

Mbeki intended to release the report at "an appropriate time without compromising the defence, security and international relations of the Republic", she said.
full report from M&G here

The possibility that releasing the report might embarrass the drive to have the Scorpions disbanded has nothing to do with it, of course

[Moneymaker]

My concern for SA is that JZ will use state funds as his personal source of capital.....

Let's see what happens this weekend in Zim?

[Don]

My concern for SA is that JZ will use state funds as his personal source of capital.....

Let's see what happens this weekend in Zim?

I think the outcome of the Zim elections are quite obvious, Zim needs change in Leadership but uncle Bob is on a mission to hang on to Power for as long as possible, which is not doing his beloved Country any good, the sooner he realises that Zim needs that change the better but clearly that is not the case given his latest stunts to score votes even from the dead.

I've seen Mogan's campaigns on SA channels, since he cant use Zim channels to campaign but I dont see that helping in any way, yes Zim people are abundant in SA but will they go home to cast their votes, have they registered? I think not.

[Dave A]

Arresting a helicopter pilot who coincidentally flies the opposition leader to rallies, giving away cars and promising tractors, printing extra ballot papers, putting polling stations in areas where there are no voters...

What's wrong with that?

[Richardk]

I think that the earlier the better. We need to put an end to the ANC talking out of two mouths, namely Thabo and Jacob. Firm, directional and trustworthy leadership needs to be instated to go forward. I am sure that this would lead to a firmer value within our total Economy.

[Dave A]

I've been amazed at how even the poll result has been.

[Marq]

Just been speaking to my Son in London. He says there is a huge support for JZ and it seems there is even a demo thing going on.

Probably find this is a result of Mbeki telling the British and Americans off for interfering in the Zim elections.

If that is the case I would imagine there is a negative effect on the economy. I don't know if they are playing a waiting game for Zuma's court case but the sooner there is an election, the sooner we may see an upswing from our current financial woes. Certainly there will be some direction and decision from what we have seen already in the background.

[Dave A]

A few things got me thinking about this thread again.

Just been speaking to my Son in London. He says there is a huge support for JZ and it seems there is even a demo thing going on.

I had an acquaintance from the UK over last night. He was well aware of the Zimbabwe issue, but his awareness in respect of JZ and Thabo was pretty low - only that they (or someone from SA) had something to do with resolving the crisis. There was certainly no awareness of the corruption charges or our internal political games of the moment.

But more on topic

I don't know if they are playing a waiting game for Zuma's court case...

I haven't been scanning the news quite as closely as usual, but a few rumblings have caught my ear. One is that there is apparently some sentiment within the ANC that pushing forward the elections might be a good idea given the current shuffling going on. The other was "Kill for Zuma" Julius saying that even if JZ is convicted in the corruption trial, he will still be President

[Marq]

I think there are a few camps on the UK side of the world - the original brits, who are dwindling in volume, Asians and Imports and a huge contingent of Saffers. My Son would have been referring to the last contingent, who in true SA style would know everything - wouldn't they?.

Remember the cartoons that came out with the JZ - 'shower a day keeps bugs away'. I can see them going to town on this one too. Just as JZ thought he was clean now after all those showers and getting some respectable campaign going. I am sure he needed this joker to remind the world of his situation. Not a very good political posture unless of course we do not realise it and Julius's name is actually Judas.