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  • Dave A
    Site Caretaker

    • May 2006
    • 22803

    #1

    A reshuffle of the political party pack ahead?

    Ramphele announced as DA presidential candidate.
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  • IanF
    Moderator

    • Dec 2007
    • 2680

    #2
    What Will Julius Do?
    The WWJD effect is going to be interesting.
    Only stress when you can change the outcome!

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    • vieome
      Email problem

      • Apr 2012
      • 540

      #3
      When the opposition gets powerful, time to bring on the rigging, and do it properly, so that you win enough to change the constitution. Just a thought on what to expect.

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      • HR Solutions
        Suspended

        • Mar 2013
        • 3358

        #4
        A Fantastic move in my opinion

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        • desA
          Platinum Member

          • Jan 2010
          • 1023

          #5
          This is a brilliant tactical move by both parties. A win-win situation.

          Could folks imagine what SA could become with leadership of this caliber & mental horsepower?
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          • Phil Cooper
            Gold Member

            • Nov 2010
            • 645

            #6
            Yeah - and Glynis Breytenbach in charge of the Prosecutions guys....

            Superb...

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            • adrianh
              Diamond Member

              • Mar 2010
              • 6328

              #7
              They sure get my vote...brilliant move...

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              • Blurock
                Diamond Member

                • May 2010
                • 4203

                #8
                The Association of National Corruption will get a run for their money, I'm sure.

                I sure hope that the citizens of this beautiful country will realise that a political party is not a club that you belong to, which you have to defend and support for the rest of your life.

                I still need to meet with an honest politician; no matter which party or even which country - they all have their own agendas. Some defraud government with tenders, others inflate their travel claims etc. The worst is when you entitle yourself with a homestead which cost the tax payer more than R200, 000, while people get killed over water!
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                • Dave A
                  Site Caretaker

                  • May 2006
                  • 22803

                  #9
                  Originally posted by vieome
                  When the opposition gets powerful, time to bring on the rigging, and do it properly, so that you win enough to change the constitution. Just a thought on what to expect.
                  The day I look forward to is when we can dump proportional representation and directly elect our representatives (and hold them directly responsible). This party list story puts way too much power in the hands of the party.

                  And every little step that breaks down division on racial lines brings us a step closer to that possibility.

                  The other thing that would be cool is if we could directly elect our President.

                  Originally posted by Blurock
                  The worst is when you entitle yourself with a homestead which cost the tax payer more than R200, 000, while people get killed over water!
                  Aren't you missing a few zero's there?
                  Participation is voluntary.

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                  • vieome
                    Email problem

                    • Apr 2012
                    • 540

                    #10
                    Originally posted by Dave A
                    The day I look forward to is when we can dump proportional representation and directly elect our representatives (and hold them directly responsible). This party list story puts way too much power in the hands of the party.

                    And every little step that breaks down division on racial lines brings us a step closer to that possibility.

                    The other thing that would be cool is if we could directly elect our President.
                    Strangely Of I late I have being thinking along those lines, it is time the whole system of demo-crazy changes. I have debating with myself and thinking it is time, where the government is run more like a business, and each leader of a department is hired by the people and can be directly fired by the people. E.g You want to run education bring your credentials to the people and let them judge if you are fit to do so.

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                    • dix
                      Full Member
                      • Jan 2014
                      • 44

                      #11
                      Well done to DA; a wise move indeed, infect a wise move since the Agang began, remember DA was instrumental in many ways during the formation of Agang; I think DA was helping in efforts to further the breakdown of ANC and hence now they are doing coalition, they won a bit (DA).

                      Now Ramphele I have little or no trust in her seeing that she was so used according to my judgment. She couldn't be able to influence and effect changes in ANC according to her ideas and decided to form her political party and now she is throwing the towel because she sees no direction in her leadership, what kind of leader she will make then? Because I think she is there to follow Helen Zille.

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                      • pmbguy
                        Platinum Member

                        • Apr 2013
                        • 2095

                        #12
                        Ramphele will still bow to ama Nkosazana Zilla, so I would not be too worried about Ramphele’s personal shortcomings.

                        I don’t expect a miracle in the elections, however I do get a gut feeling the ANC will lose allot of ground, more than one may have thought possible. If the DA does well they will do even better in 2018...perhaps in 2022 we can get the malignant cANCer removed.
                        It is not the strongest of the species that survive, nor the most intelligent, but the one most responsive to change. – Charles Darwin

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                        • Justloadit
                          Diamond Member

                          • Nov 2010
                          • 3518

                          #13
                          I have noticed that the ANC is uncomfortable that the opposition is growing in strength. I think that from the ANC leadership statements, that they are very concerned, Agang a 'stillborn' party, a second central party, referring to a stronger opposition.

                          With respect to Ramphele and Agang, I am sure she realised that they could never be ready to be a real opposition to the ANC given the short time they decide to start as a new party.
                          At this stage Agang was being funded from with in the members, which at the end of the day would not produce a large enough budget to go out and campaign to win voters.

                          Moving to the DA was a better move, and it will influence the image that the ANC had been campaigning against the DA, as a white party who would bring apartheid back if they were to win the elections.


                          I wonder what Juju will say now, at the last election he was pushing the white lady and the black tea girl as a reference to the DA leadership. Now Ramphele has been a freedom fighter for many years and spent her time in the trenches, so she will have gained a huge amount of respect and following for this, and being a life partner of the infamous Steve Biko.
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                          • dix
                            Full Member
                            • Jan 2014
                            • 44

                            #14
                            Learning and experience doesn’t make one a leader but an expert in research of which those are the strength of the Presidential candidate, moreover I believe Agang and other political parties who broke away from ANC where motivated by disagreements to the policies of ANC and hence formed their political parties with unique policies but now joined DA with different and unique policies and the whole game now seems as if it’s no longer about serving the public but defeating ANC in the polls.

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                            • Justloadit
                              Diamond Member

                              • Nov 2010
                              • 3518

                              #15
                              Originally posted by dix
                              the whole game now seems as if it’s no longer about serving the public but defeating ANC in the polls.
                              This is how the ANC managed to bring the fight to the NATS, we gotta learn from our history.
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