cANCer

[wynn]

SEEN IN PARKING LOT AT MANGAUNG ANC CONFERENCE :

106 BMW X5's, 28 RANGE ROVER SPORTS, 211 BMW 5 or 7 series sedans, 11 MASERATI's, 103 MERCEDES BENZ sedans, 6 HUMMERS, 9 FERRARI's.

Apart from the fact that the tax payer is paying to get all these cars to the conference, paying for the luxury accommodation, decadently luxurious and excessive food and drinks (all free!!), wives, spouses, lovers, friends and family - all catered for - all at tax payers’ expense.

And we wonder why the govt says they don't have money for RDP housing, proper education system, proper healthcare facilities, proper police force and crime control - and all the other things they promised and haven't honoured !!!!

CAN SOUTH AFRICA SURVIVE GIVEN THE FOLLOWING?

The folks who are getting free stuff, don't like the folks who are paying for the free stuff, because the folks who are paying for the free stuff can no longer afford to pay for both the free stuff and their own stuff.
The folks who are paying for the free stuff want the free stuff to stop, and the folks who are getting the free stuff want even more free stuff on top of the free stuff they are already getting!
Now... The people who are forcing the people to pay for the free stuff have told the people who are RECEIVING the free stuff, that the people who are PAYING for the free stuff, are being mean, prejudiced, and racist.
So... The people who are GETTING the free stuff have been convinced they need to hate the people who are paying for the free stuff by the people who are forcing some people to pay for their free stuff, and giving them the free stuff in the first place.
We have let the free stuff giving go on for so long that there are now more people getting free stuff than paying for the free stuff.
Now understand this: all great democracies have committed financial suicide somewhere between 200 and 250 years after being founded. The reason? The voters figured out they could vote themselves money from the treasury by electing people who promised to give them money from the treasury in exchange for electing them. Thomas Jefferson said it best: “Democracy will cease to exist when you take away from those who are willing to work and give to those who would not”.
The number of people now getting free stuff outnumbers the people paying for the free stuff. We have one chance to change that at the next election will we?

A Nation of Sheep Breeds a Government of Wolves!



I'M 100% for
Schooling: A decent pass rate not a manufactured one!
Culture: Western Standards not 40 wives cared for by the tax payers!
Corruption Free; No one with a criminal record has a position in Government!


"The problem with socialism is that eventually you run out of other people's money." -- Margaret Thatcher

[Blurock]

The problem with socialism and communism is that they actually say F@#k the people!!

They demand better wages and more grants so that the poor people can keep paying them and maintain their lavish lifestyles

[Didditmiself]

So the money for Zoomas homestead did not come from tax payers but from the state. And the state gets it's money from? The whole thing stinks like a rotting corpse. And nothing will come of it just like the arms deal. Zooma proudly stated last year (before Mangaung) that he had given the go-ahead for the commission of enquiry into this matter and fkall has happened yet. And nothing further will. If it weren't for the DA's vigilance, I think we'd be even worse off than we are now with a lot of other things?

[Dave A]

And the state gets it's money from?

I found myself asking a very similar question this afternoon!

I was giving one of our admin assistants a lift to the bus stop this afternoon when she asked me if I had change for R100.

I said "no, but what do you need? You can pay me back in the morning."

Apparently she needed R8 for the bus fare, but only had R3 in change and the bus driver wouldn't accept a R100 note.

I joked "they won't let you on because you're too rich to travel by bus"
but apparently the bus drivers don't want big notes because the bribes would cost them too much.

So I'm going WTF - and the story comes out.

The drivers are pocketing most/all of the fare money.
You pay R8 cash (and you don't get a ticket) or R5 if you have a coupon with at least one clip on it.
The money goes into a container next to the driver.
When an inspector boards and checks a bus, the inspector goes through the bus checking everyone's tickets.
Because the driver is pocketing the cash, most of the passengers don't have tickets or a clipped coupon to show.
So now the driver bribes the inspector who basically grabs a handful of the money out of the money container.
You can only grab and carry so much when it's all coins.

This is the municipal bus service. So who's paying for the running costs of the bus?

[Blurock]

This is the municipal bus service. So who's paying for the running costs of the bus?

The scandals surrounding the Durban bus service has been reported in our newspapers over the past 5-6 years. It is sad that employees can be so brazenly dishonest, but they learn it from their bosses who are even more crooked.

The awarding of tenders to pals, subsidies running into millions, backhanders etc. The corruption goes on and on...

Its time that the Golden Goose starts biting the one that is stealing its eggs and plucking its feathers.

[IanF]

Is the Malema saga just the consequence of the fall out with ANC. Or a start of corruption crackdown.
Either way politics is sure interesting in SA

[Blurock]

Is the Malema saga just the consequence of the fall out with ANC. Or a start of corruption crackdown.
Either way politics is sure interesting in SA

Someone once said; "If something cannot go on forever, it must stop." Well, corruption can not go on forever...

[adrianh]

Or a start of corruption crackdown.

Not a chance, they only go after those that annoy them!

[Blurock]

The problem in Zimbabwe was that the ruling party became more intolerant as soon as they realised that opposition parties became a threat. Land grabs and the rise of the dictator only started after the opposition became a threat.

We are already seeing that the ANC will not tolerate any criticism. Any one reporting corruption or bad management automatically becomes an enemy. Even the children criticising corrupt leadership are now branded "unpatriotic".

[Didditmiself]

In light of what you said, can we EVER see this fkd up government conceding defeat if they should lose at the polls? There is no way in hell that they would bow out (gracefully) and let the 'new' party take over. Maybe that's what Zooma means when he says the ANC will rule until Js comes again. And as Adrian says, there is not a chance that it's the start of a crackdown on corruption. If anything it's not only because Malemas' fallen out of favour but because SARS have smelled the possiblity of new fodder for the feeding trough.

[ians]

We all know where we are heading, the question, how long are we going to enjoy the comforts.

The crime is not even out of control anymore, it has gone beyond that point, people are being attacked in their homes while eating dinner, no longer hijacked on the road at the robot, armed robberies, hijackings take place right inside the security of your home. No matter what security system you have you are no longer safe even inside your home, they will smash your door, security gate and the frame right out the wall with your alarm going off, and if you are "lucky" they might leave you alone and just walk around your house and eat and drink while they decide what they want to take.

This what makes me laugh, people are more concerned about a few sports cars parked at a conference than danger of living in this country, who gives a F...K what cars they drive, you should be more concerned about who the crimminals are going to hit next, how safe is your wife and children this evening, are you going to be cable tied and beaten, or made to rape your daughter while your wife is forced to watch. The good olds days of you being held at gun point while they take turns raping your wife and daughters is old fashion, we have an even more sick breed of friendlys.

They can all drive ferraris for all i care, just make this country a safer place to live.

[Didditmiself]

I think the point that Wynn was making is that it is symptomatic of how the government treats ALL it's citizens; they only worry about what money they can take from us, what houses they live in, where they live, the choice of (private) schools their kids go to and yes, the type of cars they drive. They couldn't care a less whether the petrol price goes up, e tolls are implemented or not, the police are poorly paid (and therefore resort to corruption) and whether we are murdered in our homes or not. Pity if it seems the point of self gratification before the welfare of citizens by the observation of expensive cars in the parking lot was missed by you.

[ians]

My point is we are not going to be able to change the way they think or what they do anytime soon, but the crime could change your life sooner than you think.

I agree with Wynn and understand what you are saying i was just having a mid life crisis when i responded to this trhead

[IanF]

What is more worrying about our politics is the voting majority aren't worried about these excesses seen in the ANC. We all need to try our bit about educating them. But even when they say they agree with you do they.

[Justloadit]

What is more worrying about our politics is the voting majority aren't worried about these excesses seen in the ANC. We all need to try our bit about educating them. But even when they say they agree with you do they.

At least the seed will have been planted. Mention it enough times, and the thinking process begins to change, especially when they can not afford to buy that pap and wors, and have to go a little hungry. I think that we are already seeing the beginnings of this internal revolution, Marikana, Sasolburg, and many more will follow.