Legal way to never pay e-tolls

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  • Nickolai Naydenov
    Silver Member

    • Jan 2012
    • 305

    #1

    Legal way to never pay e-tolls

    Interesting article fron news24:



    *By applying the following simple, legal, non-violent or mass action steps, the courts will pass judgement in the motorists favour. I will discuss the “DELAY OF PAYMENT STRATEGY” This system is not the results of an optimist overactive mind, but a legal strategy that has been totally successful where it has been applied in a number of European countries, where the motorists have been just as angry as us, when the Government has suddenly sprung, a punitive e-toll system on them. This is my form of a “TAX REVOLT”, to the increasing number of tax generating schemes this incompetent, corrupt, extravagant and wasteful, Government is devising to break the backs of the honest tax payer. I have simply had enough, and do not intend to bow to any further taxation, no matter how ingenious, or devious it may be. I am sure all citizens are fully behind me in this issue. If most of the country can freely strike whenever they feel they are unjustly being treated, why can’t I react in the same way. All motorists should by now know, that SANRAL has realised that the major factor that will lead to the success of e-tolling, is for every motorist to purchase an electronic e-tag. With this device, as soon as you pass through a gantry, your bank account will be immediately debited. i.e. As you pass a gantry, your cell-phone will bleep, indicating SANRAL deductions have been taken out of your bank account. What a perfect method of revenue collection. No hassle, no fuss, no accounts to be posted, no waiting for payment. Instant cash into their bank accounts. So obviously to make my scheme work, non purchase of an e-tag is essential. SANRAL realises it will be skating on thin ice, if the majority of Gauteng motorist adopt the postal billing system, due to the anticipated attitude of non-payment. To prevent this, they will inevitably get the Government to pass some, or all of the following LEGALLY PUNITIVE LEGISLATION to bully and intimidate the motorist into submission: 1) No Renewal of car licences 2) Stopped and fined by traffic police at specially set up roadblocks 3) Confiscation of your car until all toll fees have been paid 4) Get the driver blacklist with the credit bureau because of outstanding debt* 5) Institute court action and criminal charges 6) Organise garnish orders on your salary 6) Implement of non-renewal of your driver’s license 7) Intimidation and threats by SANRAL thugs, that have been given the right of search and arrest etc.
    My method of legally delaying e-toll payments is extremely simple, yet completely successful, and wholly legal.
    1)*** After the first 4-6 weeks of passing through toll gantries, send SANRAL a registered letter, expressing your concern, that for the last 4- 6 weeks you have not received a payment request from them. You must state that you are COMPLETELY willing to pay the toll fees, but this cannot be carried out without a detailed invoice. Unreliable postal services could be to blame, so please would they send you your invoice by registered mail, to ensure you receive it. (This is a fully legal AARTO requirement for any letter of demand.) Make a photocopy of your letter, get a COMMISSIONER OF OATHS to stamp the copy, and keep your registered mail receipt. Such a request could take months to be settled, and if you are fortunate, never at all due to the sheer volume of similar requests received. Should you finally receive a notification that a registered letter has arrived for you, take as long as possible to collect it. This method is based upon the fact that they do not use registered mail to send invoices. If one considers the past history of all traffic fines received, these all arrive by normal mail to prevent the high costs of registering letters.
    2)*** Should SANRAL surprisingly, after a lengthy period, comply with (1) above, then send them a second CERTIFIED letter by registered post, requesting that they send you a photograph* for every single gantry you have passed under for that month, *proving that is was your car you that is being invoiced.( Perfectly legal and reasonable request from any motorist ). Such photographs obviously, you must request to also be sent by registered mail to ensure delivery. Also takes weeks to collect such registered mail, should it in the unlikely event, ever be posted. Explain that you have heard that certain motorists are using illegal false number plates and you therefore require the photographs to prove that it is definitely your cat that is being charged. Such a request could takes months to be settled, or if you are very fortunate, never. Consider the sheer volume of requests they should by now have received. If their system is not set up for such requests, which I am almost positive is the case. (Hope I am not wrong on this one) Can you imagine the difficulties and problem they will have, in trying to MANUALLY comply with the thousands upon thousands of similar requests received. To be really difficult, how about querying some of the less clear photographs taken at night. Even if they come back to you asserting that the photographs are in their opinion, all perfectly readable, further delays will have been successfully applied.
    3)*** Should SANRAL try to speed up communications by requesting your e-mail or fax number, or send you SMS’s, or trying direct contact by phone, I have considered very simple ways of negating each of such requests. I am not mentioning any of these methods, as I want to keep this article 100% above board, and free of any questionable actions.
    4)*** In the unlikely event that all the above somehow be resolved, than obviously pay, but only for that particular month under review.
    5)*** Start the whole lengthy procedure all over again, 4-6 weeks after the termination of the second month’s toll fees due. Continue with the same, for every individual month that follows.
    6)*** Let us see just how effectively SANRALS administrative system can handle
    1 million or more, of such request each month.
    7)*** SANRAL may eventually create a computerised system to deal with the above, but by then they will long have become totally in debt to the tune of billions, due to the voracious appetite of the local and overseas, salivating animals, that have been demanding their monthly profit share, as well as the enormous administrative costs accruing to SANRAL each month.
    *I think by now, all of you fully understand my proposed legal delaying tactics. SANRAL will be a huge hungry beast, with an enormous staff base, with monthly salaries being nothing but horrendous. Starve the beast of regular income, and it has to die. The only other alternative will be, as with SAA, the Government will have to pump billions of rands into SANRAL on a regular basis, to keep it solvent. This is totally unacceptable, as SANRAL was supposed to generate billions, not consume billions to stay alive.* Finally if any punitive legislative action is brought against you, you will be able to successfully fight this in a court of law, as you have always stated your full WILLINGNESS TO PAY, but have asked SANRAL to comply with certain LEGAL REQUESTS first. *Any delays will be due to SANRALS inefficiency, or unwillingness to settle your perfectly reasonable requests. Off course, you must keep with you whenever you travel, the certified copies of all your letters sent to SANRAL, as well as the registered slip as proof of posting. What a perfect “WIN – LOSE” situation.
    Just how many readers of this article will use this technique, can only be evaluated with time. As I know the system has been completely successful where else it has been tried, I am certainly going to give it a try myself, and then monitor what SANRAL’s response is going to be. It must be mentioned here, that previous overseas techniques may not necessarily be exactly those given above, but possible other “delay of payment methods”, applicably to the situation and laws in their particular country.
    And finally, the final nail in SANRALS coffin. Just say that SANRAL miraculously, and against all odds, sets up a computer system to comply with all my requests above, I will then be in a situation of such confidence, through the very long period of non-payment, that I will revert back to Plan A, and bin all further legitimate request to pay fees. By this stage, all motorist can survey the degree of chaos and difficulty SANRAL has by then got itself into, and whether they will ever be able to carry out any of their original legislated punitive actions, threatened against the already over taxed and bleeding motorist.
    ---There is no traffic at the extra mile---
  • Darkangelyaya
    Silver Member

    • Nov 2012
    • 247

    #2
    I like it.
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    • Mike C
      Diamond Member

      • Apr 2012
      • 2891

      #3
      Good idea, except that a registered letter costs about R17.60 these days.
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      • AndyD
        Diamond Member

        • Jan 2010
        • 4946

        #4
        True but I'd rather pay the post office than the toll companies.
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        • Justloadit
          Diamond Member

          • Nov 2010
          • 3518

          #5
          Originally posted by AndyD
          True but I'd rather pay the post office than the toll companies.
          I agree, only problem is that the Post Office must still drive on the e-Toll roads when delivering mail, so effectively we are still paying SANRAL, or is SANRAL paying for their own delivery through the e_Toll?
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          • Nickolai Naydenov
            Silver Member

            • Jan 2012
            • 305

            #6
            Post office must convert their trucks and vans into taxis and avoid the tolls
            ---There is no traffic at the extra mile---

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            • Dave A
              Site Caretaker

              • May 2006
              • 22803

              #7
              Not quite Ghandi's passive resistance, but quite an effective form of protest, methinks.
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              • Mitos
                Email problem
                • Feb 2013
                • 40

                #8
                New here, so still reading through....Wow! This is a gem; it should be chain mailed to everyone in your contact book, local newspapers and forums.
                If we get the AA and Car Magazine behind this...it will definitely knock a hole in Sanral's scheme!
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                • Trickzta
                  Email problem

                  • Feb 2013
                  • 462

                  #9
                  Legal way never to pay E-tolls

                  Brilliant strategy. Do you mind if I copy & paste in an email to my friends? Thanks for posting.
                  Edit; Ok I see that there is a link that I could forward, so scratch the silly request. Thanks.
                  Last edited by Trickzta; 11-Feb-13, 01:19 PM. Reason: Silly question, a link was supplied that I could share
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                  • Jacob Zuma
                    Full Member
                    • Apr 2009
                    • 49

                    #10
                    Great!!!! But it needs commitment.

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                    • Mike C
                      Diamond Member

                      • Apr 2012
                      • 2891

                      #11
                      This anti-Etoll Email has started doing the rounds again:-

                      Dear South African motorist,

                      TOLL ROADS ARE TO BE IMPLEMENTED NATIONWIDE. Finish and klaar.

                      This is not just a Gauteng concern, every province is targeted for tolls.

                      IT SEEMS TO BE ANOTHER SCAM ON US ALL FOR THE ENRICHMENT OF A FEW. Consider….

                      1) To fund the road costs by way of a small addition to the fuel levy would cost absolutely nil in collection fees. Nada, zilch!

                      2) The proposed tolls collection costs amount to nearly 40% of what you will pay under tolling. 40% versus nothing. Where is the reasoned thinking?

                      3) The collection fees (R5 billion a year) goes offshore to Austria, far from the auditor general’s reach and oversight powers. Petrol levies stay in S.A. and are audited.

                      4) R5 billion exported impoverishes us all. Our current account is already disastrous. R5 billion is the equivalent of just 20 new Zuma seraglios, but is still a klomp geld

                      Wayne Duvenage says we already collect R40 billion p.a. in fuel levies, much more than we need to sustain decent road structures.

                      Tolls are just another disguised tax like A.D.T., private schools and Discovery, paying for services which you have already paid for with your tax buck.

                      For-profit taxies are exempt from tolls, we producers still have to pay. Our Lords and Masters are dead scared of the taxies. So, I guess, are we all!

                      Daily we read of the huge financial scams being perpetrated on us by our scurvy elected Lords and Masters. Daily. Huge amounts and no one is ever brought to account.

                      We are punch drunk and feel powerless. We know that this latest scheme is like the others. We know why they will not release the contract details, and are united in gatvolheid.

                      TOLL ROAD DISOBEDIENCE IS OUR CHANCE TO FIGHT BACK! And no one gets to bleed for a change. You can simply suck it up (again) or fight back.

                      A very simple solution is at hand. It will cost you nothing, give you immense satisfaction and screw those scumbags who wish to accumulate huge offshore bank accounts at your expense.

                      DO NOT REGISTER FOR E-TOLL TAGS. REGISTERING IS NOT A LEGAL REQUIREMENT. IF YOU DO NOT REGISTER THEY HAVE TO SEND YOU AN ACCOUNT, 300 THOUSAND ACCOUNTS A DAY, 10 BILLION ACCOUNTS PER YEAR, 10 BILLION! Quite impossible, and the scam will collapse.

                      Then query your account! What fun. They will have to send you a photo of every toll you have passed through, maybe 20 billionin total. Then argue that it was not you but a cloned licence plate. Demand proof that you were the driver. With individual identification.

                      DEMAND THAT THEIR 'LETTERS OF DEMAND' ARE SENT BY REGISTERED POST. Oh! The cost, the cost, the cost!

                      Defend the case if you have time, but it will never reach that stage, the logistics and costs would be too overwhelming for the possible scamsters to contemplate. Insist, in writing, that the guy in charge of the camera attend the court, then pay your R15 due the day before trial.

                      Over 20 years there is perhaps R160 billion at stake here, many times that when every province is targeted.

                      R160 billion of your , my and South Africa’s money, possibly diverted to crooks ( they will not disclose the contracts which divulge where and to whom the toll fees are to be paid, so we cannot know).

                      Sincerely, if you are tired of being a milch cow, tired of seeing your hard worked for earnings being ripped off for the benefit of a few connected yobboes, tired of being scammed,

                      DO NOT BUY AN E-TAG, THEY CANNOT LOCK YOU UP, CANNOT BEGIN TO FIGHT US ALL, CANNOT HOPE TO WIN.

                      Remember, the more draconian they get in trying to extort money from you, the more they will lose at the polls, and losing power is something they cannot afford as it would deny them the unlimited power of plunder they now enjoy.

                      Please send this to as many of your contacts as possible. Let this go viral

                      We will win for a change, and won’t that be satisfying !

                      Please, pass it on
                      No act of kindness, no matter how small, is ever wasted. - Aesop "The Lion and the Mouse"

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                      • IanF
                        Moderator

                        • Dec 2007
                        • 2680

                        #12
                        Lots of ads now asking us to get an Etag, but no mention of when this will start. This is going to get interesting with cosatu already opposing this and not many people registering.
                        Only stress when you can change the outcome!

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                        • Pretoria Kitchens
                          Email problem
                          • Mar 2013
                          • 3

                          #13
                          We spend more than R2500 per day on diesel and petrol and the tolls will knock our small company. The idea of given SANRAL the runaround is great but managing that will be time consuming (time that I personally do not have) but i agree that combined resistance is the answer to the tolls.
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