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  • Just Gone
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    • Nov 2010
    • 893

    #16
    In my opinion only, the proprietor did not want to share cost to install a security system.

    I'm confused because on another thread you said "security was a fallacy" anyway ...... but now you want security !!!

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    • tec0
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      • Jun 2009
      • 4624

      #17
      Kevinb > Security in the form of armed guard response VS actual security at the premises is not the same thing at all. The guard is actually there to be seen and if you give the guard the proper tools like security cameras he/she will be effective. Having someone racing down to the parking lot not so much…
      peace is a state of mind
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      • Just Gone
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        • Nov 2010
        • 893

        #18
        The guard is actually there to be seen and if you give the guard the proper tools like security cameras he/she will be effective
        Oh so the guard with the camera is not a fallacy ? .............. Got news for you - the guard route is the worst route to go - I have never seen a guard turn down a bribe to look the other way, so in my opinion guarding is a fallacy !!

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        • tec0
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          • Jun 2009
          • 4624

          #19
          Originally posted by Kevinb
          Oh so the guard with the camera is not a fallacy ? .............. Got news for you - the guard route is the worst route to go - I have never seen a guard turn down a bribe to look the other way, so in my opinion guarding is a fallacy !!
          Sadly both the guard and the camera system was rejected. So the notion is what it is… That said I do agree with you that it wouldn't have worked if the guard was there and accepted money. So in general how would a security expert such as yourself deal with the problem?
          peace is a state of mind
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          • Just Gone
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            • Nov 2010
            • 893

            #20
            So in general how would a security expert such as yourself deal with the problem?

            Aah tec0 ............ YOU would need to pay for that advice !!

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            • Dave A
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              • May 2006
              • 22803

              #21
              People would pay off the guard so that they can randomly vandalise vehicles?

              I can understand if they are stealing vehicles...
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              • Just Gone
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                • Nov 2010
                • 893

                #22
                Originally posted by Dave A
                People would pay off the guard so that they can randomly vandalise vehicles?

                I can understand if they are stealing vehicles...


                Without a doubt ..... Up in Gauteng it has become a thing to steal number plates apart from other things ........ reason for this is the e tag toll system !!

                I have a car dealership customer ...... he has had guys coming on to his lot and told the guard to dissappear ..... and they take what they want from the cars including wheels, mirrors, windscreens, number plates etc. Now he has decided to up his security with other measures so that they cannot just intimidate the guard !
                Last edited by Just Gone; 06-Mar-12, 09:04 AM.

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                • tec0
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                  • Jun 2009
                  • 4624

                  #23
                  Simple solution actually we want a reason in writing and signed by the proprietor why he will not allow for our guard and or a security system. This will proof that we tried to take responsibility but was hindered by the proprietor to do so.

                  We hope that would be enough to keep him responsible for our damages if not, then our second step is more drastic, we move "all of us" he will lose a $h!t load of money in the coming months.
                  peace is a state of mind
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                  • tec0
                    Diamond Member

                    • Jun 2009
                    • 4624

                    #24
                    Victory!!! Video cameras will be installed within the next few months. No contributions necessary.
                    peace is a state of mind
                    Disclaimer: everything written by me can be considered as fictional.

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                    • Dave A
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                      • May 2006
                      • 22803

                      #25
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                      • Just Gone
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                        • Nov 2010
                        • 893

                        #26
                        Originally posted by tec0
                        Victory!!! Video cameras will be installed within the next few months. No contributions necessary.


                        There you go .............. so security is not a "fallacy" !

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                        • Justloadit
                          Diamond Member

                          • Nov 2010
                          • 3518

                          #27
                          Originally posted by tec0
                          Victory!!! Video cameras will be installed within the next few months. No contributions necessary.
                          The concern here is "within the next few months", this has no time limit. Please quantify "a few"

                          Me thinks the response is to get you to lay off him.
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