SMS Milvet

[Martinco]

Has anybody else had this sms ? Sounds fishy to me ! ( Identity theft )

"Was jy in die weermag? Het jy uitgeklaar voor 1989? Stuur jou naam, ID en magsno aan milvet@mweb.co.za om te registreer vir 'n eenmalige pension uitbetalingvan R30 000-00. Kyk na die Govt Gazette oor die aangeleentheid. (Datums in April 2011) Stuur hierdie SMS vir al jou pelle. Wie weet........."

[Martinco]

Aha ! I sent an email just inquiring about the authenticity of the sms. "Mail delivery failed"

"A message that you sent could not be delivered to one or more of its
recipients. This is a permanent error. The following address(es) failed: milvet@mweb.co.za
SMTP error from remote mail server after RCPT TO:<milvet@mweb.co.za>:
host mx-mweb.smp.mweb.co.za [196.28.76.20]: 550 Unknown user"

[wynn]

But there is talk of a military pension for veterans from all sides.

[Martinco]

I shall obviously investigate further but what made me suspicious is that government/semi gov etc will not use a Mweb email address.

The program on Carte Blanche last Sunday mentioned that members of the old SADF will NOT be paid a "pension" as that was an illegal government and only the cadres will be paid.

But let's wait and see !

[Dave A]

The program on Carte Blanche last Sunday mentioned that members of the old SADF will NOT be paid a "pension" as that was an illegal government and only the cadres will be paid.

How to deal with "service delivery protests" (ie riots) and a gentle slide in the polls?

How about giving out pensions to the old cadres? Worked for Mugabe for years and a lot cheaper than real service delivery

And with any luck the cadres will stop rioting

[greasemonkey]

Its a scam, here is the official site and a copy and paste(sorry, its long) of their reply to the whole issue
Good Day,



It has come to the attention of the Department of Military Veterans that an SMS/Email with the wording as below is currently being distributed widely amongst members of the former SADF.



PLEASE TAKE NOTE THAT THIS SMS IS NOT OFFICIAL COMMUNICATION FROM THE DEPARTMENT OF MILITARY VETERANS AND IT CONTAINS FALSE INFORMATION AND SHOULD NOT BE FORWARDED.



1. There is no email address like milvet@mweb.co.za.

2. There is no once-off pension pay-out of R30000.

3. There was no Government Gazette published in this regard in April 2011.



“Was jy in die weermag?

Het jy uitgeklaar voor 1989?

Stuur jou naam,Id en magsno. aan: milvet@mweb.co.za. om te registreer vir n

eenmalige pensioen uitbetaling van R30000. Kyk na die Govt Gazette oor die

aangeleentheid. (Datums in April 2011) Stuur hierdie sms vir al jou pelle.

Wie weet....”





“Were you in the Army?

Did you clear out before 1989?

Send your name, ID and Force No to: milvet@mweb.co.za to register for a

once-off pension pay-out of R30000. See the Govt Gazette with regard to

this matter (Dates in April 2011). Send this sms to all your friends.

Who knows…”



FACT IS:



v The Military Veterans’ Bill was approved by Cabinet in November 2010

v This Bill contains the definition of a Military Veteran and also proposes that Military Veterans should get benefits i.e. assistance with Health Care, Housing, Pensions, Education, Transport etc.

v The Bill is currently being discussed by Parliament and NOT YET APPROVED – whatever is contained in the bill can still change.

v An OFFICIAL ANNOUNCEMENT will be made once the Bill is approved.

v Mrs van Eeden DOES NOT DEAL WITH PENSIONS.

v Mrs van Eeden verifies bona-fide military veterans, she developed, and maintains, the Military Veterans’ Database. Registrations have been temporarily put on hold as a result of the HUGE NUMBER of applications received. We are currently enhancing our system to make it more effective. You will be informed when we resume.

TAKE NOTE:



v DO NOT give your Banking Details to persons promising you “Cash Pay-Outs” or “Pensions” etc.

v DO NOT pay “admin fees” for applying for these hoax “pensions” etc.

v The Military Veterans’ Bill (as approved by Cabinet) is available from the Government Website (www.gov.za ) if you wish to read through it. Keep in mind that it is still being discussed by Parliament and could still change – it is not yet law.



Please edit your website and forward this communique to all your fellow military veterans in order for us to stop this fraudulent activities and the spreading of false rumours!



See article below for your information.



Regards



Alettie van Eeden

Department of Military Veterans

Republic of South Africa
contact milvetadmin@mweb.co.za for more details

[Dave A]

contact milvetadmin@mweb.co.za for more details

It just gets better and better

[greasemonkey]

Eish! missed that I know, but this is the real one.Cubs honour! Have a look at http://www.sadf.info/ Not the govt site but they seem kosher to me
I have been registered about a year and no requests for bank details or any other funny business, only updates about the bill.

[six]

mr

michael visser ,6605105017081 .82586876bg

[Rudi Fourie]

milvet

Thanks for all the info, now i know it is a scam.

[Martinco]

It seems as though my statement of only "cadres" benefiting from the Bill is incorrect. A section of the statement below:

Definition

More importantly, the bill clarifies the definition of Military Veterans as “a South African citizen who rendered military service to any of the military organisations, which were involved on all sides of South Africa’s liberation war from 1960 to 1994; those who served in the then Union Defence Force before 1961, and those who became members of the South African National Defence Force after 1994, and has completed his/her military training and no longer performs military duties and has not been dishonorably discharged from that military organisation”.

The statement by the Deputy Minister can be seen here

The question remains. Would we ever see anything ?

[Dave A]

I think this bit from the same statement gives some idea of which way the wind is going to blow:

In essence, the bill also identifies key benefits and support that constitute government’s obligation towards military veterans. These include:

• Healthcare support
• Housing
• Business opportunities
• Educational opportunities
• Military pensions
• Access to public transport
• Facilitation of empowerment
• Burial and honour
• Job placement
• Counselling

All the above benefits will be accessed on the basis of each individual’s eligibility and qualification through a means test.

[Dave A]

I just got this email bounce message from someone called vorster trying to register on TFSA:

Hi. This is the qmail-send program at theforumsa.co.za.
I'm afraid I wasn't able to deliver your message to the following addresses.
This is a permanent error; I've given up. Sorry it didn't work out.

<milvet@m.web.co.za>:
Sorry, I couldn't find any host named m.web.co.za. (#5.1.2)

[Chrisjan B]

I see that it is m.web instead of mweb - typing error. That will explain the bounce.

[Dave A]

I see that it is m.web instead of mweb - typing error. That will explain the bounce.

You'd think - but correcting it to mweb and sending resulted in a bounce too - just like as mentioned in one of the previous posts

Of course it could be Mweb stuffing around. They have a reputation for dumping mail - even mail that their clients want.