Chinglish

[adrianh]

I am in the process of buying a laser cutter from a company in China.

I asked the supplier whether the machine can be run directly from Coreldraw & Autocad.

His response:
the machine is with software, but this software mainly function is only for output design (working job) to machine from computer, we can give you the coreldraw or autocad, but they are piratic version, do you need?

[daveob]

Eish

Well, at least they honest and transparent about it.

[desA]

Seems straightforward to me.

[Dave A]

I bet you can't wait to be reading the instruction manual

[AndyD]

They obviously feel absolutely rocks.

I bet you can't wait to be reading the instruction manual

They'll probably just 'piraticate' it from another laser cutter manufacturer.

[adrianh]

They'll probably just 'piraticate' it from another laser cutter manufacturer.

Good one

[flaker]

i respect the Chinglish

hard working guys. never say die. they sure persevere.would i be correct in saying that probably 75% of goods on american shelves is "made in china"?

[adrianh]

I'll say one thing abong the Chinese - I can't fault their service.

The local supplier is totally useless - He charges a 100% markup and adds no value. The Chinese supplier is always available with information. What also stuck me was that the Chinese supplier, on analizing my needs, suggested that I purchase a smaller machine than I thought I needed. He suggested the purchase of particular spare parts, such as the laser tube & mirrors, which I did.

[IanF]

AdrianH
A bit off topic but can you tell us about the logistics of importing your laser cutter. Transport, customs, insurance VAT etc.

[adrianh]

I contacted the supplier in China and selected the machine & options.
He raised an invoice for 100% of value including Insurance & Freight.
We spoke to SARS and determined that there is no import duty on the machine.
VAT is payable on collection.
We went to the bank and filled in a document (for the reserve bank)
We have an importer / exporter code for the business. (I think that this is why we are not required to use a shipping agent)
The bank transfered the fund to the supplier's Hong Kong account based on their account No & Swift code.

Now we wait...1 week for assembly in China & 6 weeks via ship.

We will be notified once the machine arrives at the docks.
We then have to go to customs & SARS to get clearance.
We are responsible for the removal of the machine from the docks.
The documentation has to be taken to ABSA to prove that we received the machine - for their reserve bank files.
According to ABSA we have to keep all documentation for the next 5 years.

...
The process is a lot simpler than I envisaged. ABSA & SARS have been very helpful up to this point. It may be a bit more complicated if you do not have an importer / exporter code & if you live inland.

[AndyD]

Did you pay the supplier 100% directly on order or is the funds in escrow until delivery to you?

[alexwang]

I don't know how you think of chinglish.
but for me ,chinglish is a proud thing to talk about.

My english is not native AE or BE, but I do like my chinglish cause it is the proof of the spreading of english in china. Once english had been a burden for chinese people, we tried to learn it in order to communicate with english speaking country people. If we totally follow the former way of speaking english, our thought and mind wil follow that way. As all english speaking people know that, AE is full of [r] pronunciation, BE is too gentle or nobe somehow for us. So we update it into our own way, chinglish（this is the innovation).
I want some day people would say, what kind of english do you speak: american english, british english or chinglish?

Did you guys understand the chinglish thinking style yet?
we just want you to understand our way of speaking english, you don't have to follow or change your way.(from our deep heart)

good good study, day day up!

[adrianh]

Alex - I bet far more Chinese people are trying to learn to speak English, than English people trying to speak Chinese.

I am sure that Chinese people also giggle at English people who try to speak Chinese. I don't think that anybody means any disrespect, its just human nature to smile at people and things that are unusual.

[alexwang]

adrianh
what you have talked about is all right.
First the number of the people have decide the result.

we all learn and share to each other now, when we start to try to speak not native english, when you start to notice the existence of chinglish, when we start to talk about chinglish, when we try to let the others know your culture and language.
I hope we could be friend.
thanks

[adrianh]

Friends - of course

Tell me more about yourself -

What business are you in?
Is it you own business?
How is the business doing?