fast zombie versus slow zombie

[twinscythe12332]

I'm a fan of zombie movies. The whole survival against all odds thing and my general enjoyment of horrors/comedies leads me towards both sides of the spectrum with zombie films.

But I digress. In zombie movies, you have two types of zombies.
THE SLOW ZOMBIE
these are slow re-animated living dead. freaky shiet.
THE FAST ZOMBIE
these run/sprint and devour. They tend to shamble about when there isn't fresh meat on the table, but get up to speed fast.

Since most zombie films show the zombies as devouring corpses because they're around instead of for sustenance, I think the slow zombie is more plausible. Sure, the zombie could be fast at the beginning. but once rigor mortis starts to set in, they should be struggling to move, and eventually they shouldn't be able to move at all.

what are your views?

[tec0]

Well let us start with the type of zombie. First you get your good old living dead Sharman Zombie that looks like a corps and move like one but they are very strong when it comes to hitting stuff and at the same time they make a good all around mess if it gets hit it by a car.

Then you get your thinking Zombie it is able get past walls and electric wires but it is still slow moving and relentless especially if they get to a human.

Now as fiction allowed the Zombie to evolve you get your bio-mutated human zombie. Fast moving hard hitting and more importantly they have cognitive abilities that is translated into stalking, hunting and ambushing people at night like standing behind a door when the victim think the room is empty.

Still a Zombie movie always have that humour about it. All in good fun.

[Dave A]

Seeing the funny side of horror kinda defeats the object, doesn't it?

[AndyD]

I've pondered the zombie issue for many years but wouldn't usually bring up the subject in public. But, now you've mentioned it I have a few thoughts and can tell you it's no laughing matter. I even have a contingency plan ready for the day there's a zombie take-over....but I'll get to that in a minute.

Firstly the speed of zombie. I think zombies will always move slower than their live human counterparts, especially those benefiting from the adrenaline rush of seeing a zombie chasing them. The thing is that what zombies lack in speed and agility they make up for in stamina. Your common or garden zombie can keep up a steady 5 Kmh for days when in pursuit of its prey. I'm no expert but I suspect a recently fed zombie is probably faster than a malnourished one.

I reckon the cognitive or thinking mans zombie is just a figment of Hollywood's imagination. It's well know and widely accepted that zombies don't possess that kind of brain function, their actions stem from pre programmed responses at a genetic level similar to single cell organisms. It's their single mindedness that is their strength, without the constraints of fear and a conscience they are a formidable beast indeed.

Anyway my contingency plans are in place and have been for several years. My whole family, dog included, have a zombie suit. When the attack comes we all don the suits and head for safer territories. The crux or the plan is that if we don't talk and drool a lot whilst walking with a lumbering step we should go unnoticed and hopefully escape. It's not as easy as it sounds and takes practice so once a month we all do zombie drill to make sure we're all up to scratch with the procedure.

[tec0]

Dave A > Seeing the funny side of horror kinda defeats the object, doesn't it?

Well not really I love zombie movies and especially when stuff goes wrong for the humans. It is that much more interesting. But again I do like a Zombie movie with survivors. If everybody dies in a zombie movie the movie itself feels kind of useless.

Secondly, there will be slow moving zombies but nature is about speed the fastest animals are normally the victor. And zombies had to evolve to keep up with modern weaponry. Normally the phenomena causing the zombies to appear in the first place messes around with human genetics so zombie evolution is really feasible.

There fearlessness and "1 item" attention span is there strongest point. Staying focused on a target until they or the target dies is probably what gives the zombie its “fear-factor”

AndyD > Anyway my contingency plans are in place and have been for several years. My whole family, dog included, have a zombie suit.

As for fooling a zombie? Chances are that they function on fresh meat and no matter how bad you smell there is a real difference between rotting flesh and something that is still alive. Based on their primitive nature I think smell is there main focus point.

Best way to deal with zombies is fire, chainsaw, explosives and a shotgun. Also a big armoured 4x4 is also a “nice to have” item.

[AndyD]

As for fooling a zombie? Chances are that they function on fresh meat and no matter how bad you smell there is a real difference between rotting flesh and something that is still alive. Based on their primitive nature I think smell is there main focus point.

You've never met my 14 year old Staffie, believe me a zombie won't know the difference between her and something long dead.

[tec0]

You've never met my 14 year old Staffie, believe me a zombie won't know the difference between her and something long dead.

Sounds like a zombie spy if you ask me

[twinscythe12332]

being prepared is good. One thing we know zombies are deathly allergic to:

[tec0]

Well in the dire moment of desperation we as South Africans cannot buy a gun never mind having a few shotguns stashed in a safe ready for that apocalyptic day when the dead becomes the un-dead.

Still all South Africans have the born ability to improvise when the un-dead awakes. I recommend a few of these.

[tec0]

As for fast zombies against slow zombies, got this little bit of info have a look at this. Its really interesting to see the fictional evolution.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zombie

[twinscythe12332]

well, since we've moved onto survival strategies, where do you think the best place would be to escape zombies (in terms of numbers, not to see none at all)

[tec0]

Honestly “Robben Island” The building is basically a big strong room and with a few modifications you will be able to grow food in-doors and more importantly you will be isolated and safe. With enough supplies and a bit of ingenuity like “purifying sea water” stuff like that you will probably be safe and isolated from any zombie attacks.

My second choice would be low populated areas and farm lands and open spaces. So that it would be easy to spot anything moving and more importantly you have enough space to “hide” in. This will allow growing food and surviving too.

Third option would be a river and the biggest boat I can find. Bing in the middle of a big damn or river gives you a tactical advantage and you will be able to outrun anything and with basic fish-finder equipment stay safe from any mass attacks because you will see them coming even if they are under water. Also you will have access to water and fish. Growing food is again an option but your space is limited “depending on the boat”

I would stay away from cities and enclosed arias because you can get trapped easily however if one must one can probably consider fortifying a building with limited entrances better yet a police station may be a good place to clean out for oneself. There will be weapons and armour and armoured cars so it is a good place to set up camp the prison aria is build secure and will make for a good “safe-room” if the zombies wise up.

Still an aria close to a dam or river is preferable because you can get food and water.

Modifying a truck or something like that is not really practical unless if you live close to farmlands because getting a big truck trough blocked roads and stuff is really not going to help you at all. “You will be a sitting duck”

What would you do? Where will you go?

[tec0]

Thought this would look cool with all the other posts

[Dave A]

Can I steer this towards vampires. Somehow, they're sexier and accordingly far more interesting.

How about vampire vs quick zombie? Any thoughts?

[tec0]

Well to give the zombie a proper chance lets go for the zombies or rather “mutated zombies” from “Resident Evil Apocalypse.” Now the good doctor modified a few zombies that are able to process surroundings and they are good hunters.

Right from the vampires side I wish to bring in the vampires from “underworld” Reason being they are close to myth. “Vampires in underworld” are still allergic to sunlight and is accessibly brilliant in self defence and there order is disciplined. Not like those rejects from “Blade”

Now vampires will be able to move faster there attacks will be strategically better than that of a zombie. Still zombies are famous in swarm attacks and part of their strengths is there is just too many of them!

Still with blade weaponry “it doesn’t run out of bullets” and there added strength and speed the vampire will probably still be the victor here. However the vampire needs living blood and I am not sure that zombies classify as a food for them. If there are no healthy animals around and no humans, then the vampire will go down simply because of starvation.

However will the zombies recognise the vampire? That I cannot answer because basically they are both “part of the un-dead” range of monsters.

In the end vampires are better looking more sophisticated and may be able to survive. But the zombie is the ultimate survivor here “they can eat anything” . Still zombies are not the ultimate fighters...