Denied petrol

[ians]

At least I have good news ... test results are negative ... it is just the flu ... better safe than sorry ... back to work from tomorrow.

Apparently the clinic is full again today and doesnt have facilities to test for covid ... so he was moved to a hospital and tested.

He is feeling better and just has a sore throat.

This is a sensitive subject and maybe its time to move forward.

[adrianh]

I dont understand why people get so worked up ... there is block facility on social media platforms ... its simple you block the person and move on ...

The thing that you need to understand is this: When people continually run their mouths with no regard for anybody else then all that happens is that good people leave permanently. I belong to many Facebook groups and the same thing happens over and over again - one or two people are continually obtuse and the rest just leave because the "mouths" sour the group.

Reddit is a case in point and the problem is much worse there - The "circleJerkers" - the ones who back one another up with their views downvote all other views until those views no longer show up at all. The "CircleJerkers" then again think that they are right because they downvoted all other views.

The other side of the argument is that we have freedom of speech (within reason of course) and if people choose to be obtuse all the time then that is their right. The rest of the world can then choose to ignore everything they have to say. This is unfortunate because they have really great input on other topics!

[Derlyn]

The thing that you need to understand is this: When people continually run their mouths with no regard for anybody else then all that happens is that good people leave permanently. I belong to many Facebook groups and the same thing happens over and over again - one or two people are continually obtuse and the rest just leave because the "mouths" sour the group.

Reddit is a case in point and the problem is much worse there - The "circleJerkers" - the ones who back one another up with their views downvote all other views until those views no longer show up at all. The "CircleJerkers" then again think that they are right because they downvoted all other views.

The other side of the argument is that we have freedom of speech (within reason of course) and if people choose to be obtuse all the time then that is their right. The rest of the world can then choose to ignore everything they have to say. This is unfortunate because they have really great input on other topics!

@ Adrian

The thing that YOU need to understand is that using the F word chases people away. Implying it is the same as using it. You should have been banned long ago for using vulgar language. SIES.

Insulting someone when you differ with their point of view also chases people away. It doesn't work with me though because I'm an adult with a thick skin. It's like water off a duck's back.

Anyway, even although you have sworn at me, insulted me many times , I do believe that you might change the way you interact with fellow brothers.

Google " Debating for Dummies". You might pick up one or two handy points to ponder.

I still love you, my brother.

Cheers and peace out ... Derek

[adrianh]

I have no interest whatsoever in what you have to say and I have nothing to say to you.

Please refrain from addressing me!

[Derlyn]

Please refrain from addressing me!

Your request is granted.

Could I then request that you refrain from responding to any of my posts ?

[adrianh]

I will respond to any post to anything I feel like.

GET OUT OF MY FACE!

[Derlyn]

I will respond to any post to anything I feel like.

GET OUT OF MY FACE!

Goodnight, brother.

Sweet dreams.

Peace out ... Derek

PS Sorry if I'm in your face. Just ignore it.

[tec0]

@ Derek,

COVID-19 Coronavirus vaccine

COVID-19 Coronavirus vaccine myths and facts

Fake news - Coronavirus COVID-19

Regulations and Guidelines - Coronavirus COVID-19

[adrianh]

@tec0 - Don't waste your energy on this!

This nonsense is no different to the rules related to kiddy seats in cars. To this day some people insist on their "right" NOT TO strap little kids into car seats because the law infringes on their "right" to to whatever the F they want - even when their inaction has the potential to kill innocents.

The law can't protect people from their own stupidity and by the looks of it nothing can protect innocent people from the stupidity of others!

[Derlyn]

Don't suppose the self confessed speedsters with bags full of fines pose any danger to anybody.

[adrianh]

@tec0 - Look at these stats - makes for interesting reading.

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/south-africa/

[tec0]

@tec0 - Don't waste your energy on this!

This nonsense is no different to the rules related to kiddy seats in cars. To this day some people insist on their "right" NOT TO strap little kids into car seats because the law infringes on their "right" to to whatever the F they want - even when their inaction has the potential to kill innocents.

The law can't protect people from their own stupidity and by the looks of it nothing can protect innocent people from the stupidity of others!

I probibly rewrote that post that was to go with those links a few times. Was about the occupational health and safety act why it is important for both employee and employer. All that stuff.

Here is the thing, I use to do work on a lot of industrial sites. See the moment people stop following the rules, the worst happens. People die in terrible horrible ways. But as you say you get the special few that believe they are above the law and beyond approach. The nice thing of being on a work place if contractors doesn't follow the rules there work is stopped there permits gets taken away and they are removed from the premises. See in the past a lot of lives was lost to situations that could have been avoided. This is why safety is so strict.

Now i am not sure if the person that started this post is working for someone or for himself. I am not sure who the client/employer is.

This is what we know.

Well, I suppose it had to happen sooner rather than later .....

So there I was at a Caltex in Beacon Bay alone in my car wanting to top up with R400 petrol.

I was denied service unless I donned a face nappy.
I politely told the attendant what he could do with the petrol hose, drove half a kilometer further and topped up at Total, no problem.

Caltex have now joined my list of businesses to be avoided in future for treating their clients like infants.
Pick n Pay heads that list for trying to force me to push a trolley whilst buying a loaf of bread.
Coca Cola has also recently been added to the list.

Would it have been easier just to put on the nappy and get served ? ..... Yes.
Would it have been the right thing to do ? .... In my opinion, no.

The sooner we ALL call out the bull@#$# for what it is, the better for us all.

Peace out ... Derek

Not sure what he expected but the "Caltex in Beacon Bay" did the right thing here.

See if i was asked to work with someone that does not want to use PPE i report them and have them removed from site. When a contractor came to my home to do some work, he used his PPE. He did a great job i was very happy to pay him and when he left i had all the papers i needed and he had full payment. This is great. But when a contractor set foot in my home without the correct PPE, i ask them to leave. Why? Because i am responsible, it is still my property. I have done this even before the pandemic. If something happens i can get into a bad situation so i rather just avoid it outright.

It is all about accountability/liability and as many many contractors found out over the years it is better to follow the laws, rules and regulations then to go against it.

[adrianh]

I live in Cape Town and I'm yet to see anybody be obtuse about the whole mask wearing thing. People just don the mask and get on with their lives. I am yet to see anybody locally throw a tantrum about masks. We work from home so I get quite a number of visitors / customers / collections and courier companies coming by. Of course my two daughters and I also get Mr Delivery kinda food delivery quite often too - NOT ONCE have any of those people rocked up here without a mask and we always wear masks in the in their presence (inside or outside the house)

- maybe its a Cape Town thing - We just can't be bothered to be obtuse about such things.

[Derlyn]

Circle jerkers doing their thing.

[Derlyn]

@ tec0

You must really be desperate.

When you post with a quote, at least have the decency not to alter the post to suite your agenda.

Nowhere in my original post was any one letter or sentence in bold text. That was added by you. Pathetic.

And if you must know ...... I am the boss. I decide if I want to work. I decide when I want to work. I decide who I want to work for. I decide how much to charge. I decide everything, and I ain't short of clients. Hope that puts your mind at ease, seeing that you are so curious as to who the boss is.

I do not work on industrial sites. Period. I have turned down major contracts with Daimler Chrysler and Portnet.
Now you obviously want to know why. Let me once again put your mind at ease.

Quite simple actually. I do not need the "kroon" and I do not wear safety boots or a hard hat. I am your worst nightmare.

My existing clients are very happy with the service I provide. They are more worried about the quality of my work than what I wear.
Heaven forbid. In summer we even take off our shirts and catch a tan while working. This is the Eastern Cape, my brother. Why do you think we live here ?

Life is a bundle of cherries on my side, brother.

Dave, as the originator of this thread, I humbly request that it is now blocked.
I think I've made my point.

Thank you kindly

Peace out ... Derek