Energy Crisis and Daylight saving time!

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  • vieome
    Email problem

    • Apr 2012
    • 540

    #1

    Energy Crisis and Daylight saving time!

    Just wondering if Daylight saving time was introduced would it help with current energy crisis. Has there ever being talk of Daylight saving time in South Africa. What are your thoughts on that?
  • tec0
    Diamond Member

    • Jun 2009
    • 4624

    #2
    i personally think we are past the point where we can actually control demand. The Power-Stations cannot provide enough for everyone regardless of the time of day. See the industry and fabrication is a 24/7 job so regardless of the time the energy consumption will stay the same "unless if you use solar energy then I can see a big change. And yes office and admin can well benefit from the idea. But as far as heavy industry goes our best and only solution is a nice big nuclear reactor generating massive amounts of energy.

    I don't think that we have an alternative because there is just so many ways to generate power at the moment. Truth is without power we don't have an economy and there cannot be job creation because businesses and fabrication needs what it needs. But I digress.

    Daylight saving? YES for office and businesses that can use alternative power this is a solution but for heavy industry? I honestly don't know...
    peace is a state of mind
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    • Dave A
      Site Caretaker

      • May 2006
      • 22803

      #3
      We'd probably get more of the cooking done before the streetlights came on. That might help some.
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      • IanF
        Moderator

        • Dec 2007
        • 2680

        #4
        The cows don't like it!
        "The farmers were the reason we never had a peacetime daylight saving time until 1966. They had a powerful lobby and were against it vociferously."

        Many farmers still don't like DST, including some dairy farmers, who find that cows' natural milking schedules don't adapt easily to a sudden shift.
        From National Geographic
        Some businesses in say New York start at 9 am businesses in the next time zone start at 8 am so they can still sync.
        Only stress when you can change the outcome!

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        • Phil Cooper
          Gold Member

          • Nov 2010
          • 645

          #5
          It was proposed a couple of years back.

          Unions opposed - "was way to make de wekkas work extra hours (where)?

          Dropped like a hot cake by guvmint.

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          • adrianh
            Diamond Member

            • Mar 2010
            • 6328

            #6
            It's done in Namibia. Their view is that it is counter productive because they get an hour less work done if they are dependent on South Africa. Further, all that daylight saving does is shift the entire demand curve by an hour.

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            • Justloadit
              Diamond Member

              • Nov 2010
              • 3518

              #7
              Yes but you don't understand, the demand right now is between 6 and 9 PM, if you bring daylight saving, then the time is different, and then ESKOM can cope because it will finish earlier, can't you see
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              • adrianh
                Diamond Member

                • Mar 2010
                • 6328

                #8
                Ah....me tooo stupeed for ESKOM logeeek

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                • wynn
                  Diamond Member

                  • Oct 2006
                  • 3338

                  #9
                  'Well you see, the reason is, because, why? it means I have to wake up an hour earlier and get to work an hour earlier, why you do this?
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                  • IanF
                    Moderator

                    • Dec 2007
                    • 2680

                    #10
                    I heard the Eskom guy on radio say daylight saving will save about 1% in peak demand. So no use on that front.
                    Only stress when you can change the outcome!

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                    • Dave S
                      Gold Member

                      • Jun 2007
                      • 733

                      #11
                      Originally posted by wynn
                      'Well you see, the reason is, because, why? it means I have to wake up an hour earlier and get to work an hour earlier, why you do this?
                      And the cANCer will reply, "It's an Apartheid thing, we have no control..."
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                      • tec0
                        Diamond Member

                        • Jun 2009
                        • 4624

                        #12
                        I take it you never worked 12 hour shifts before? You get up at about 5:00am or 5:00pm depending if you are on dayshift or nightshift. You have to be at work at round about 6:00am or 6:00pm depending on the shift. So I really don’t see how daylight savings will have any impact whatsoever when it comes to shifts.

                        I say this because you will have to put in 12 hours of work regardless.
                        peace is a state of mind
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                        • adrianh
                          Diamond Member

                          • Mar 2010
                          • 6328

                          #13
                          So tec0, will the days then be 25 hours long?

                          We want the wekkas to work more hours because they get more sunlight.

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                          • tec0
                            Diamond Member

                            • Jun 2009
                            • 4624

                            #14
                            Originally posted by adrianh
                            So tec0, will the days then be 25 hours long?

                            We want the wekkas to work more hours because they get more sunlight.
                            Where we use to work 14 hour shift was not uncommon. As for your 25 hour day it will become a reality "eventually" but not in my lifetime thankfully. Every 18 months or so "give or take" a leap second is added to what is called "planetary time". This is done to keep the day "Synchronised" with things like "atomic clocks". But don't take my word for it you know all the "intelligent" people ask them...
                            peace is a state of mind
                            Disclaimer: everything written by me can be considered as fictional.

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                            • HR Solutions
                              Suspended

                              • Mar 2013
                              • 3358

                              #15
                              As for your 25 hour day it will become a reality
                              Ummmm I don't think so .....

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