A new education system for South Africa

[tec0]

tec0 - free - you're on the weed again. My brother took loans to pay for each of his degrees. He worked at the drive-in on weekends. My parent paid for his one room flat in JHB. I paid myself to get my NTC4, 5 & 6. My sister worked as a nurse for a couple of years to make some money before she took a loan to get her degrees.

My dad studied for many many years to be a surgeon. He only paid his loans when he turned 40.

tec0 - you seriously need to get in touch with reality. Get off you butt and do something for yourself. Just think you could have already taught yourself calculus from the internet if you spent as much time going through tutorials as you spend whinging and talking trash here.

did I say degree anywhere in my posts? Did I say trade in my posts? I think I said trade oh yes I did so stop putting words in my mouth

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if you want to pee on someone get your facts right because a lot of people ages 50 to 60 that did there trade at the military will tell you that it is true. You had a chance at getting your trade.

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[pmbguy]

I think that technology (tablets etc) has its place and it can be beneficial to the education system, but it certainly cannot replace the role of skilled teachers in the classroom. We need to educate the educators and kick out the bad apples. Although the entire education system is in shambles we still have the basic infrastructure to build on. We can’t go and through the baby out with the bathwater and stick a tablet in his hands thinking that will solve everything.

[tec0]

I deleted my last post as I started a Thread on Admin.

I had a look at android running it on virtual PC. It is very customizable and you can secure lock it so that the OS can’t be updated or changes. So it is possible to customize the OS so that you can’t install extra software on it and abuse it.

It will take some doing but with the right people working on it. I fee l it is possible to modify the OS to fit the criteria needed.

[HR Solutions]

So companies don't pay for training ?????? Really ?????? Funny that - I must have misunderstood the client I saw in CT this morning then ....... And the other clients that have told me!

[adrianh]

Eskom paid for my wife's Technicon diploma.

I was walking about the local Spar yesterday and there was a stunning young lady promoting pies or something. We started talking and it comes out that she is doing a degree in molecular biology. We spoke at great length and I asked her why somebody as obviously intelligent as herself is wasting her time marketing such silly things. Of course, as it always is, she took a loan to pay for her studies but she needs to make a bit of money to pay for her daily expenses. They pay her R150 a day to stand around and waste her time. She is planning to go on to do a PhD....Looks like she is going to spend a long long time marketing pies!

[Blurock]

no ignorance here sir... just that a lot has changed. I have spoken to people age 90, I have spoken to people age 60 and I have my own experiences. Tell you what there are some opportunities that existed back then that doesn't exist today. I am not saying you had a walk in the park. You didn't... But I am saying you had options.

You still have options. I know of many people who studied or are still studying through UNISA. A correspondence course or distance learning while working full time is still an option. Unfortunately the stooges in our government have done away with appreniceships, (because they want everyone to be as stupid as they are?) but one can still do an apprenticeship if you really want to.

A technical qualification is worth its value in gold, as we are running out of technical people with the skills to do a proper job. Once you qualify in a technical field you are well on your way to start your own business, as we all know that people in government are unable to perform and need consultants to do their jobs for them. Are there more opportunities today? Yes and no. Due to blatant discriminatioin and favouritism the best candidate may not be selected, but somewhere along the line people will require your skills, with the emphasis on skills, not bull$!t.

Remember, the carpenter charges, not for hitting the nail, but for placing the nail in the right place!

[HR Solutions]

Spot on Blurock.

[desA]

New education system, anyone?

[Dave S]

I must digress that I haven't read this thread all the way through, but I'd like to add my few pennies...

The system as depicted at the start of the thread would be great, if it could be implemented, and that's a big IF!

I don't believe the Gobblemunt would "get behind" it, but for one simply reason, they don't want the masses to be educated, an educated majority would think before casting a vote, they wouldn't follow blindly. This means the Government would actually have to do something for the people in order to stay in parliament, and does anyone on this forum believe they (the current Government) have any clue how to do that?

But let's say the system did get a green light, those that weren't keen on learning would sell their tablet for another fix or whatever. Those that do want to learn would keep it and use it for its intended purpose, that is until the ones that sold theirs want another fix, then the others will be forced to hand them over, and so the education of the few will also collapse.

I know this is a very bleak hypothetical view, but it is based on history and experience. One thing is very clear though, our education system needs a strong kick in the right direction.

[Justloadit]

in the land of the blind, the one-eyed man is king

What is important here, is for parents to constantly advise their children, that education is the key to riches.

My mother constantly told me that education is the only way to set you free. Even today, if you look around, especially in this technological world, the educated in the technology, most likely are employed and doing well.

Until each child sets his mind to wanting to learn, then any action attempted by anyone will be fruitless.

[desA]

The system as depicted at the start of the thread would be great, if it could be implemented, and that's a big IF!

It's a starting point, on which others can build. If we all apply our collective minds to SA's present difficulties, we have the opportunity to change the nation - for the better.

I don't believe the Gobblemunt would "get behind" it, but for one simply reason, they don't want the masses to be educated, an educated majority would think before casting a vote, they wouldn't follow blindly. This means the Government would actually have to do something for the people in order to stay in parliament, and does anyone on this forum believe they (the current Government) have any clue how to do that?

What has become very clear, of late, is that the present folks in power, have become The Educational Oppressors, of our time.

My thoughts are to bring outside change-agents into the loop - Google, Virgin etc...

But let's say the system did get a green light, those that weren't keen on learning would sell their tablet for another fix or whatever. Those that do want to learn would keep it and use it for its intended purpose, that is until the ones that sold theirs want another fix, then the others will be forced to hand them over, and so the education of the few will also collapse.

This is where the power of the family needs to be tapped. Protect the ones that want to learn, from those that want to destroy. It is possible.

I know this is a very bleak hypothetical view, but it is based on history and experience. One thing is very clear though, our education system needs a strong kick in the right direction.

A paradigm change is truly required.

[Peter Johns781]

Huh! Wow, you have a wild imagination but let us go to the practical bit. How much will it cost, is government willing to spend as much? What if you can begin individually, how much will it cost? I think it will not be cost friendly although the results might improve a little bit!

[sterne.law@gmail.com]

I suggested earlier that there is a manner in which to 'force' this upon government, having PPP in mind.

Ironically, two days ago I read in LegalBrief that consideration is being given to privatization of education.

[Dave S]

in the land of the blind, the one-eyed man is king

What is important here, is for parents to constantly advise their children, that education is the key to riches.

My mother constantly told me that education is the only way to set you free. Even today, if you look around, especially in this technological world, the educated in the technology, most likely are employed and doing well.

Until each child sets his mind to wanting to learn, then any action attempted by anyone will be fruitless.

If I may add, "education and hard work are the keys to success and riches", however, riches itself is overstated, one can become a successful pauper...

[adrianh]

If I may add, "education and hard work are the keys to success and riches", however, riches itself is overstated, one can become a successful pauper...

I like your thinking.