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  • ians
    Diamond Member

    • Apr 2010
    • 3943

    #1

    Safe room door

    I need to make 2 doors, one for my passage and one for my "safe" room for my family.

    I was going to make them bullet proof and fill them with a material to absorb the impact,but instead I have decided make them strong enough that a bullet will actually bounce off. The door will have 4 dead bolts, 2 on either side. My question to all the bright sparks, what would be the best material to use, the door must be designed in such a way that,

    when you look at the door it must just look like a normal wooden door

    the wood must be thin enough that it doesn't absorb any impact,

    the material used must ricochet the bullet with max force,

    the weight is not a big issue but the lighter the better,

    the cost, my family safety is worth more than any piece of material.
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  • wynn
    Diamond Member

    • Oct 2006
    • 3338

    #2
    An angle iron frame with 6mm steel plate behind and an ordinary door planed to fit the angle frame.
    Don't forget to put dead bolts at the hinge side as well, that is the weak point on most security doors.
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    • wynn
      Diamond Member

      • Oct 2006
      • 3338

      #3
      Oh and make sure the ceiling access is protected otherwise the Zombies will come in that way.
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      • ians
        Diamond Member

        • Apr 2010
        • 3943

        #4
        That's why the safe room is in the corner of the house with the fire wall protection from the one side, I am also concerned about exit in case they try smoke us out, there is an awning which we can escape across into the neighbours yard, unfortunately it makes easy access for them if they come from that side, but we need an exit route. Putting hand rails up the wall so it doesn't look like a ladder, might be an idea to fit shutter board under the ceiling, so if they try drop in through the roof they would get a little surprise.

        The shower has 3 walls, 1 x firewall and 2 side walls and the door facing wall extends past the shower and there are no windows facing the shower door.

        The next step is gas for the rest of the house, past the passage door not in the bedrooms or passage, the panic button to release the gas will be in the safe room.

        If my house was big enough I would have built a cupboard or book shelf in front of a concealed room, which would be the safe room.

        Takes me back to Angola, maybe I should build an underground bunkers with access through the floor, the only problem is my wife would think I was going nuts, digging in the middle of my bedroom floor, filling sand bags.

        I cant believe that it has got to that stage that I felt safer in Angola in the middle of a bush war than in my own home.
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        • ians
          Diamond Member

          • Apr 2010
          • 3943

          #5
          If I use stainless steel could I go thinner on the door panel?
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          • IanF
            Moderator

            • Dec 2007
            • 2680

            #6
            Ian Have a look at armox a lot of the armoured cars use it. But it is big $ http://www.ssab.com/en/Brands/Armox/
            Only stress when you can change the outcome!

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            • ians
              Diamond Member

              • Apr 2010
              • 3943

              #7
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              Found some interesting ideas, there could be a market for this kind stuff in this country in the near future, lets hope the friendlies keep up the great job they doing of terrorising the communities. The market is already flooded with electric fencing, alarm, armed response, cctv etc etc etc.
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              • pmbguy
                Platinum Member

                • Apr 2013
                • 2095

                #8
                If you need to bug out

                What about a very secret very strong room. A reinforced secret room is not that difficult or expensive to build. You know, the usual, Bookrack or walk-in change room. Layer it as well, with a primary gate/door which forms an enclosed secure area outside the strong room. Within its parameters will be the wife and kids. Within this area is the secret door to the strong room. The presence of the strong room is Need to Know Only. Cleaned and serviced by yours truly. Completely hidden and functional. Separate from service lines etc..
                It is not the strongest of the species that survive, nor the most intelligent, but the one most responsive to change. – Charles Darwin

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                • Dave S
                  Gold Member

                  • Jun 2007
                  • 733

                  #9
                  @Ians Any flat surface will normally not cause a ricochet, any bullets would "mushroom" on impact, in order to create a surface that causes richo's you will need to form a panel (behind the wooden covering) that has a scalloped surface (multiple half moon indentations), as the bullets catch the edges of these scallops it causes them to deflect, the more perfect the scallops are, the stronger the chance that the bullet will deflect to the point where it was fired. I'll draw a picture to explain this in more detail if needed? But, be warned, it will be very expensive to produce and will be very heavy.
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                  • IanF
                    Moderator

                    • Dec 2007
                    • 2680

                    #10
                    Here are the guys that stock and cut armox VR Laser
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                    • ians
                      Diamond Member

                      • Apr 2010
                      • 3943

                      #11
                      Thanks Ian did contact them,

                      Some one suggested 20 mm poly carb and a slam lock mechanism.

                      It seems my idea of having a hole in the door near the top so I can shoot back while locating them on a monitor in the passage is illegal and will get me locked up for premeditated murdered, because my life was not in danger while they are attempting to break down the door even if they are using axes and 14lb hammers. Found this out because someone I was talking mentioned that his mate was in jail because he shot a friendly through the door while he was chopping at the door with an axe, his life wasn't in danger while they where attempting to break down the door...only in Africa
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