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  • adrianh
    Diamond Member

    • Mar 2010
    • 6328

    #16
    Here is a sideways question: Lets say you were to place a chameleon in between 2 mirrors and a red filter between the chameleon and one mirror and a blue filter between the chameleon and the other. Given that a chameleon can see both sides simultaneously what colour will the chameleon be.

    The isn't a trick question with a clever answer, it is just something that I've been wondering about.

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    • pmbguy
      Platinum Member

      • Apr 2013
      • 2095

      #17
      It depends, I guess, on whether the chameleons skin turns colour bilaterally independently. It would be interesting to which degree if they could. (as a species). I Know a octopus is multilateral and so forth.....chameleons fascinate me, I am going to try this one day.....do some quick research, perhaps even phone chameleon head office
      It is not the strongest of the species that survive, nor the most intelligent, but the one most responsive to change. – Charles Darwin

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      • vieome
        Email problem

        • Apr 2012
        • 540

        #18
        Originally posted by Dave S
        I think it is safe for us to assume that the Universe cannot end. Our minds are incapable of perceiving anything beyond this, even if "our" universe has an ending, another must begin at the same point and therefore presents another never-ending-universe. Space and time as we know it are limitless, there may be finite rules to the way we use time, but it is limitless nonetheless. For instance, when we perish, our time stops and our universe ends, but time in general carries on and so does the universe.

        I know, it was really a silly question to ask if the Universe has an ending...
        This reminds me of the Nick Bostrom's simuluation theory
        His argument is that in the future we will have enough computer power to create simulations that mirror different time periods, he then goes on to argue that we are living in a computer simulated universe. My question to him was if indeed his theory is true, and given that a simulation might run for years, he will eventually get to point where the people living in the simulated universe create their own simulated universe, so a simulation in a simulation, a multi(universe). So if we living in a simulated universe our universe may be finite. Another interesting take on the universe is given by David Bohm who argues that the universe is holographic, a 2D energy field that projects itself as a 3d world.

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        • Dave S
          Gold Member

          • Jun 2007
          • 733

          #19
          Originally posted by adrianh
          Here is a sideways question: Lets say you were to place a chameleon in between 2 mirrors and a red filter between the chameleon and one mirror and a blue filter between the chameleon and the other. Given that a chameleon can see both sides simultaneously what colour will the chameleon be.

          The isn't a trick question with a clever answer, it is just something that I've been wondering about.
          Adrian, this test has actually been done, or something similar. We mere mortals, believe what we heard in school, that a chameleon will change colour to suit it's surroundings, this is not entirely true. A Chameleon can only adopt certain colour of the Green/Blue/Red spectrum(s) and they can range from Grey to almost Pink in colour. In the scenario you provide, I imagine the chap would be a Brownish/Grey/Orange. I don't know to what extent his pigmentation is controlled, but if it is possible for him to change his sides to different colours, he would probably appear Grey/Brown on the Red filter mirror, and a Brown/Orange on the Blue filtered mirror. I am just guessing though?

          I will try to find the actual experiment on the net when I have a little more time, the results should be quite interesting.
          Today Defines Tomorrow
          Errare Humanum Est Remitto Divinus

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          • Dave S
            Gold Member

            • Jun 2007
            • 733

            #20
            Note to my last entry. The Chameleon colour chart is as dependent on species, mood, terrain, as it is on pigmentation within his dermis, or so I have read, a lot more research required I'm afraid.
            Today Defines Tomorrow
            Errare Humanum Est Remitto Divinus

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            • pmbguy
              Platinum Member

              • Apr 2013
              • 2095

              #21
              Dave S, Don’t stress about kak

              Anyway, thanks for the riddle It’s hectic. Please tell me (PM) if I am right by saying it’s the Bluesmaster guy? I think I found a shortcut, without doing the location profile, which is what I will do if I am wrong.

              I have been thinking of a riddle of my own, but can’t seem to get it just right.
              It is not the strongest of the species that survive, nor the most intelligent, but the one most responsive to change. – Charles Darwin

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              • wynn
                Diamond Member

                • Oct 2006
                • 3338

                #22
                That mealieclimber is checking me out squiff!
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                • pmbguy
                  Platinum Member

                  • Apr 2013
                  • 2095

                  #23
                  I have heard if this, don’t do drugs
                  It is not the strongest of the species that survive, nor the most intelligent, but the one most responsive to change. – Charles Darwin

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                  • pmbguy
                    Platinum Member

                    • Apr 2013
                    • 2095

                    #24
                    exactly
                    It is not the strongest of the species that survive, nor the most intelligent, but the one most responsive to change. – Charles Darwin

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