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  • Martinco
    Gold Member

    • Oct 2008
    • 927

    #1

    South African Airways

    At the risk of being proven wrong, I post this for the same money that I paid for it. ( Nothing ! )



    Ever wonder why we can't keep our airfares down?




    Why is SAA always running at such a huge loss and forever requesting
    'bail outs' from the government?

    The reason appears to be quite simple - they have too many people
    working for them and the business simply cannot afford it!

    Many of these SAA employees fall into the 'protected employees'
    category, (those that simply have a job and do very little to nothing
    to substantiate their worth ), and our Employment Act prevents the SAA
    from simply 'getting rid' of surplus or unnecessary staff.

    In any business it is vitally important to keep ones staff numbers to
    an absolute necessary minimum. This would be in line with the
    principle of keeping ones overall overheads to a minimum.

    A conducted website search of some random airlines (listed below) in
    order to gauge the total number of employees at that airline, measured
    against their total number of aircraft in the fleet. Simply divide
    the total number of employees by the total number of aircraft in the
    fleet which in turn indicated how many employees in the airline are
    employed PER AIRCRAFT in the fleet.

    It must be noted that the research was not conducted in depth and some
    of the numbers below reflect from 2010 - 2012.

    Interestingly enough, when attempting to download SAA's 2010 Annual
    Report, when clicking on it, nothing happens!

    Have a look at the 'shock and horror' below:

    1) QANTAS (Australian) 32 500 employees with a total of 252
    aircraft = 129 employees per aircraft


    2) American Airlines 87 897 employees with a total of
    618 aircraft = 142 employees per aircraft


    3) Delta Airlines 106 216 employees with a
    total of 722 aircraft = 147 employees per aircraft


    4) British Airways 36 832 employees with a total
    of 238 aircraft = 154 employees per aircraft


    5) United Airlines 115 149 employees with a
    total of 710 aircraft = 162 employees per aircraft


    6) South African Airways 55 500 employees with a total of 58
    aircraft = 957employees per aircraft

    Numbers above are subject to change depending on latest figures.
    Martin Coetzee
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  • adrianh
    Diamond Member

    • Mar 2010
    • 6328

    #2
    eeee...but it takes maaaaany peoples to steal from theeee lugggage...

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    • Pap_sak
      Silver Member

      • Sep 2008
      • 466

      #3
      Eish, that is scary and I am sure not unique in many government departments. I wonder if that also includes the hordes of "consultants" ie ex employees that are need to keep some of them going!

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      • Blurock
        Diamond Member

        • May 2010
        • 4203

        #4
        Originally posted by Martinco
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        6) South African Airways 55 500 employees with a total of 58
        aircraft = 957employees per aircraft.
        Maybe the extra staff are there in case they have to kick start the planes. There are some hefty aunties working there...
        Excellence is not a skill; its an attitude...

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        • Mike C
          Diamond Member

          • Apr 2012
          • 2892

          #5
          I wonder if that also includes the hordes of "consultants" ie ex employees that are need to keep some of them going!
          I also wonder at how much is "outsourced" and not included in the employee/plane ratio.
          No act of kindness, no matter how small, is ever wasted. - Aesop "The Lion and the Mouse"

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          • Nickolai Naydenov
            Silver Member

            • Jan 2012
            • 305

            #6
            Could you please post a link to that website?
            ---There is no traffic at the extra mile---

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            • houtkop
              Email problem
              • Oct 2012
              • 10

              #7
              Onthou `n klompie van die topbestuur het geloop, maar nou-ja hulle sal seker met 5 meer vevang word

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              • Martinco
                Gold Member

                • Oct 2008
                • 927

                #8
                Originally posted by Nickolai Naydenov
                Could you please post a link to that website?
                I shall try to find it and post.
                Martin Coetzee
                Supplier of Stainless Steel Band and Buckle and various fastening systems. Steel, Plastic, Galvanized, PET and Poly woven.
                We solve your fastening problems.
                www.straptite.com

                You may never know what results will come from your actions, but if you do nothing, there will be no results... Rudy Malan 05/03/2011

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                • ians
                  Diamond Member

                  • Apr 2010
                  • 3943

                  #9
                  What seems to be the problem, i thought that was the norm in this country, ever watched the people repairing water pipes or electrician replacing a fuse, i dont see why it should be any diferent in SAA.

                  lets just use a fuse replacement as an example,

                  you need
                  one person to answer the call and record the fault
                  one to pass the report onto the electrical department,
                  one to recieve the report
                  one to go see where the pole is
                  one to advise the electrician to attend to the fault
                  one to drive the truck to site
                  one to setup the gas for tea
                  one to carry the tools
                  one to carry one side of the ladder
                  one to carry the otherside
                  one to climb the pole
                  one to pass the fuse
                  and if the fuse pops, eeeeish i dont have enough time to go through that process...

                  The water department has another one to drive the armed response vehicle and another to be the armed response person.
                  Comments are based on opinion...not always facts....that's why people use an alias.

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                  • Phil Cooper
                    Gold Member

                    • Nov 2010
                    • 645

                    #10
                    When I worked in Botswana some years ago, my phones were being installed.

                    One guy came and installed the cables up to the point on the walls.

                    THEN - another guy came to attach the plug. Different job, different union, different responsibility.

                    THEN - yet a third came with the phone units, plugged them in, and programmed them...

                    'Nuff said!

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                    • Martinco
                      Gold Member

                      • Oct 2008
                      • 927

                      #11
                      The article was found here :


                      Martin Coetzee
                      Supplier of Stainless Steel Band and Buckle and various fastening systems. Steel, Plastic, Galvanized, PET and Poly woven.
                      We solve your fastening problems.
                      www.straptite.com

                      You may never know what results will come from your actions, but if you do nothing, there will be no results... Rudy Malan 05/03/2011

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                      • Dave A
                        Site Caretaker

                        • May 2006
                        • 22807

                        #12
                        Worth reading the second comment on that article, which says:

                        SAA numbers

                        What is your source for the SAA numbers? I get 10 057 employees and 61 aircraft from their 2011 annual report. So 165 employees per aircraft.
                        Still a little high, but nowhere near as extreme as originally presented.
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                        • desA
                          Platinum Member

                          • Jan 2010
                          • 1023

                          #13
                          African Socialism at its very best...
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