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  • eitai2001
    Silver Member

    • Aug 2007
    • 203

    #31
    Another situation has arised ... my business relationship manager says that WRT the overdraft, I will be liable for it until its paid off, even if she signs surety? Can this be the case? I am leaving the company, and somebody with more security is willing to take over suretyship ... surely there is something that can be done?
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    • Dave A
      Site Caretaker

      • May 2006
      • 22803

      #32
      Welcome to the wonderful world of banks. Once they've got you by the balls, they don't let go unless they're forced to.

      Have the CC open a new bank account at another bank and close the account you're a surety for.
      Participation is voluntary.

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      • eitai2001
        Silver Member

        • Aug 2007
        • 203

        #33
        Originally posted by Dave A
        Welcome to the wonderful world of banks. Once they've got you by the balls, they don't let go unless they're forced to.

        Have the CC open a new bank account at another bank and close the account you're a surety for.
        Problem is we have an overdraft in use ... and so part of the deal is they take over the overdraft. After requesting to speak to their legal department, they changed their tone and now she must submit a personal balance sheet, and they'll look at changing.

        They're dorf if they don't .... I have no assets in my name, everything in my mom's name ... so I'm sure they'll switch over surety, cause the new owners have personal assets.
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        • Dave A
          Site Caretaker

          • May 2006
          • 22803

          #34
          Just make sure you get a letter of release from the surety at the end of it all. Bankers love their belts and braces and in their view there's no harm in having you still tied in "just in case."
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          • jinxster
            Full Member
            • Mar 2010
            • 36

            #35
            Ok my 2c, with the overdraft, moving the bank account is still a good idea.

            What I would do is, sell the company like you have, then instruct the new member to move the account within 6 months - 24 months depending on various factors you can decide.

            Then check in periodically with the new owner to see how it is going until the account is moved.

            Even if you use the same bank with another account. At least after 2 year you wont ever have a problem.

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            • eitai2001
              Silver Member

              • Aug 2007
              • 203

              #36
              Originally posted by jinxster
              Ok my 2c, with the overdraft, moving the bank account is still a good idea.

              What I would do is, sell the company like you have, then instruct the new member to move the account within 6 months - 24 months depending on various factors you can decide.

              Then check in periodically with the new owner to see how it is going until the account is moved.

              Even if you use the same bank with another account. At least after 2 year you wont ever have a problem.
              Why though? If I get a letter from the bank releasing me as a surer, I don't see why. You must remember that a lot of our customers have our bank details saved on their internet banking, plus we will have to organize new merchant accounts and stuff ... it really is a big thing to change the account. I thought that once I get the surety changed, it should all be fine?
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              • jinxster
                Full Member
                • Mar 2010
                • 36

                #37
                Peace of mind? Probably isnt necessary that much

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                • eitai2001
                  Silver Member

                  • Aug 2007
                  • 203

                  #38
                  Originally posted by jinxster
                  Peace of mind? Probably isnt necessary that much
                  Well once I get the letter from the bank, I will have the letter as a legal document, and a contract from the new owner as a legal document ... but more so the bank letter ... I think all should be fine thereafter. Remember, the bank account is held by a separate legal entity being my company.
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                  • Dave A
                    Site Caretaker

                    • May 2006
                    • 22803

                    #39
                    Originally posted by jinxster
                    ...then instruct the new member to move the account within 6 months - 24 months depending on various factors you can decide.
                    I'd suggest post transfer-of-ownership requirements are quite tricky to enforce and should be avoided at all costs. The honeymoon period tends to wear off quite quickly when it comes to sales of business.
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                    • eitai2001
                      Silver Member

                      • Aug 2007
                      • 203

                      #40
                      Well guys ... after pushing the bank a bit ... they have finally agreed to transfer the surety ... now just waiting on the CK2 so we can fully transfer all supplier accounts and the actual bank account.
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