Is this an IOD?

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  • Dave A
    Site Caretaker

    • May 2006
    • 22807

    #1

    Is this an IOD?

    An employee uses his bike to go to work.
    On his lunch break, he goes off the work premises to go to the shops, and is injured in an accident.

    Would this constitute an IOD accident?
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  • Mike C
    Diamond Member

    • Apr 2012
    • 2892

    #2
    Hi Dave - I would think not ... as he was not engaged in business activity at the time. If he had gone on an errand for the business, then I imagine that it could be claimed.
    No act of kindness, no matter how small, is ever wasted. - Aesop "The Lion and the Mouse"

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    • Dave A
      Site Caretaker

      • May 2006
      • 22807

      #3
      Originally posted by Mike C
      If he had gone on an errand for the business, then I imagine that it could be claimed.
      Now this is exactly where things might get interesting.

      What if he was also getting some lunch items for other employees?
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      • Richard S
        Full Member

        • Mar 2013
        • 72

        #4
        I guess that would depend on whether he was doing them a favour - at their request - or if he had been instructed - not merely given permission - to do so by his employer?

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        • ians
          Diamond Member

          • Apr 2010
          • 3943

          #5
          Dave you have a super bike which is used for deliveries? The new Yamaha R1 will be available from around march for about R240 000. I am sure you can also claim the vat back Then at least the employee would be covered for IOD.
          Comments are based on opinion...not always facts....that's why people use an alias.

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          • Dave A
            Site Caretaker

            • May 2006
            • 22807

            #6
            Originally posted by Richard S
            I guess that would depend on whether he was doing them a favour - at their request
            He would be doing them (the other staff) a favour. Certainly not an official errand at all.
            Participation is voluntary.

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            • MikeJohn
              New Member
              • Nov 2011
              • 8

              #7
              If not an official errand, then shouldn't be an IOD.

              We had an incident wherein an employee was injured by a company bus, that was transporting only employees, and it happened at the entrance gate to our premises, but because the injury didn't occur with the employee during the course of actual work, it wasn't accepted it as an IOD. In my view, our employee should have still been able to claim - but nonetheless...

              In the case that you've presented, it is my view that they most certainly would exclude the possibility of an IOD claim.

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              • Ivan
                Junior Member
                • Oct 2010
                • 14

                #8
                Hi

                Remember when dealing with IOD's of such nature, the question to be asked, Is he under instruction by he's employer (which includes he's managers, supervisors etc)?
                If not , IT would not be accepted as an IOD.

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                • Ivan
                  Junior Member
                  • Oct 2010
                  • 14

                  #9
                  Hi MikeJohn

                  Just to add to your case , when transport is provided free of charge to employees and in control by employer, there is strong grounds for that claim to be accepted.
                  We have to bear in mind its not the employers call to make , it should be the Funds/Mutual organisations decision, unless its a very clear cut case.

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