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  • IMHO
    Email problem

    • Jan 2012
    • 540

    #1

    Worker can not fetch his wages.

    I have this problem. The worker is too ill to come personally to sign for his monthly wage. In fact, it is all just sick leave pay. His wife is not allowed to fetch it on his behalf. How can one legally let someone else sign for the money, in order that you do not get disputes afterwards that he never received the money. What is complicating it more, is this common law marriages practice going on among them. You can never be sure who you are dealing with.
    ~Expenses will eat you alive! - My first Boss~
  • Mojakoki
    Email problem
    • Apr 2012
    • 9

    #2
    This suggestion will not solve the 'sign for' issue, but you could send him his money to his cellphone.
    ABSA call it "Cashsend" - you pay his cellphone number at an ATM and receive a reference number which you also send to him.
    Nedbank have "Mpesa", but you need a Vodacom number to register.

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    • IMHO
      Email problem

      • Jan 2012
      • 540

      #3
      Still sounds a bit dicey to me. What if he come back with, 'my cellphone was stolen, I did not get my money'?
      ~Expenses will eat you alive! - My first Boss~

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      • Mike C
        Diamond Member

        • Apr 2012
        • 2891

        #4
        I take it that he does not have a bank account so that you can eft his pay?
        No act of kindness, no matter how small, is ever wasted. - Aesop "The Lion and the Mouse"

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        • Justloadit
          Diamond Member

          • Nov 2010
          • 3518

          #5
          Originally posted by IMHO
          Still sounds a bit dicey to me. What if he come back with, 'my cellphone was stolen, I did not get my money'?
          There is still a PIN which you hold. He has to contact you to get the PIN before the ATM releases the money. If he then gives the PIN to somebody, then it is no longer your problem. Ensure you record the call when you give him the PIN number so that you have a record.
          Victor - Knowledge is a blessing or a curse, your current circumstances make you decide!
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          • IMHO
            Email problem

            • Jan 2012
            • 540

            #6
            Originally posted by Mike C
            I take it that he does not have a bank account so that you can eft his pay?
            Correct.

            The cellphone route is a possibility. But what I am actually after, is how to enable him to send his 'wife' to come get his wages. BTW, he is illiterate and can not read or write, except for his name.

            Is the cellphone route the only way?
            ~Expenses will eat you alive! - My first Boss~

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            • IMHO
              Email problem

              • Jan 2012
              • 540

              #7
              Originally posted by Justloadit
              There is still a PIN which you hold. He has to contact you to get the PIN before the ATM releases the money. If he then gives the PIN to somebody, then it is no longer your problem. Ensure you record the call when you give him the PIN number so that you have a record.
              I do not understand how he gets his money from the ATM. a Cellphone does not come with an ATM card?
              ~Expenses will eat you alive! - My first Boss~

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              • Justloadit
                Diamond Member

                • Nov 2010
                • 3518

                #8
                If you have an FNB or ABSA account, you can pay any one with cash. You make a cash payment to a cell number. The bank then sends them an SMS with a transaction code. They go to any Absa or FNB ATM, enter the code, and the system then asks for a PIN number. The PIN number you give to the person that you are paying, they enter the PIN number and the ATM spits the money out.
                Victor - Knowledge is a blessing or a curse, your current circumstances make you decide!
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                • IMHO
                  Email problem

                  • Jan 2012
                  • 540

                  #9
                  Can I for instance draft a letter, in which he nominates someone over the phone to me who he will send to fetch his wages. I then send this letter to him and explain the content to him over the phone. He then sign the letter and send the person with identification to fetch and sign for his wage, with the letter. I then attach a copy of the ID of the letter carrier to the signed copy of the payslip. Could something like that work?
                  ~Expenses will eat you alive! - My first Boss~

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                  • Justloadit
                    Diamond Member

                    • Nov 2010
                    • 3518

                    #10
                    Here is more info on Absa Cash Send

                    On FNB Send Cash
                    Under FAQs
                    How do I Receive Money?

                    You receive an sms telling you that money has been sent
                    Dial *120*277# to access the eWallet
                    Select 'Withdraw cash' and then 'Get ATM PIN'
                    You'll receive an SMS with an ATM PIN
                    Go to an FNB ATM.
                    At the ATM press the green button (enter/ proceed) and then Wallet Services
                    Key in your cellphone number and ATM PIN
                    Choose the amount of money to withdraw. Make sure that either your transaction has ended or that you press 'cancel' before leaving the ATM.
                    Victor - Knowledge is a blessing or a curse, your current circumstances make you decide!
                    Solar pumping, Solar Geyser & Solar Security lighting solutions - www.microsolve.co.za

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                    • IMHO
                      Email problem

                      • Jan 2012
                      • 540

                      #11
                      Originally posted by Justloadit
                      If you have an FNB or ABSA account, you can pay any one with cash. You make a cash payment to a cell number. The bank then sends them an SMS with a transaction code. They go to any Absa or FNB ATM, enter the code, and the system then asks for a PIN number. The PIN number you give to the person that you are paying, they enter the PIN number and the ATM spits the money out.
                      You just enter a code without first inserting a card into the ATM? Does not sound right to me. Any case, I bank with Standard. Yes, I know!
                      ~Expenses will eat you alive! - My first Boss~

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                      • IMHO
                        Email problem

                        • Jan 2012
                        • 540

                        #12
                        Originally posted by Justloadit
                        At the ATM press the green button (enter/ proceed) and then Wallet Services
                        Key in your cellphone number and ATM PIN
                        Choose the amount of money to withdraw. Make sure that either your transaction has ended or that you press 'cancel' before leaving the ATM.
                        Sure sounds like no card involved. But complicated to an illiterate. What about my letter idea?
                        ~Expenses will eat you alive! - My first Boss~

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                        • Mike C
                          Diamond Member

                          • Apr 2012
                          • 2891

                          #13
                          What about my letter idea?
                          I don't know why that couldn't work. It seems to overcomplicate it a bit, but should cover all the angles. Of couse it will work fine until challenged at some stage.
                          No act of kindness, no matter how small, is ever wasted. - Aesop "The Lion and the Mouse"

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                          • Justloadit
                            Diamond Member

                            • Nov 2010
                            • 3518

                            #14
                            Originally posted by IMHO
                            You just enter a code without first inserting a card into the ATM? Does not sound right to me. Any case, I bank with Standard. Yes, I know!
                            Yep no card required. This is how you can send cash to anyone anywhere in the country who does not have a bank account.
                            Originally posted by IMHO
                            Sure sounds like no card involved. But complicated to an illiterate. What about my letter idea?
                            Agreed, welcome to the new world I suppose.

                            Letter should work.
                            Victor - Knowledge is a blessing or a curse, your current circumstances make you decide!
                            Solar pumping, Solar Geyser & Solar Security lighting solutions - www.microsolve.co.za

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                            • gac
                              Bronze Member

                              • Dec 2011
                              • 175

                              #15
                              I don't think you're legally obliged to but can you not send a dependable trustworthy person to deliver the wage to him and get sign-off.

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