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  • Brett Nortje
    Bronze Member
    • Jan 2015
    • 132

    #1

    Food for all!

    This is harder to organize than other things. this is not money so we need to actually generate it. if we were to observe the homelands, we will find that everyone here has food except for those without land. the cheapest but slowest solution to this is to take the rubbish from the food stuffs of those with land and give it to the people that have no food as compost or whatever you call it.

    Or, we could take the excess from the established commercial farms and give to them before it spoils. this will take very little effort. we could make this more formal with paperwork or something, like an election where the people get their thumbs inked? the state could buy a lot of food with a inkling of the revenue.
    !! Going to my destruction !!
  • wynn
    Diamond Member

    • Oct 2006
    • 3338

    #2
    The reality is that in the homelands most people don't grow very much, they wait for the grants to come in every month.
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    • Justloadit
      Diamond Member

      • Nov 2010
      • 3518

      #3
      Which creates it own problem. Why should I work, if I can get a state grant.

      Up north, most people become entrepreneurial or they die, as no one really cares. It is not a good thing, but that is nature.
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      • Brett Nortje
        Bronze Member
        • Jan 2015
        • 132

        #4
        How about the shops all gather together, in the name of charity, and buy in super bulk, allowing them to spread the produce around without adding to their costs? this would work if the owners were not so greedy - we need them to be charitable, without loss to themselves, instead of being scrooges.
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        • HR Solutions
          Suspended

          • Mar 2013
          • 3358

          #5
          Originally posted by Brett Nortje
          How about the shops all gather together, in the name of charity, and buy in super bulk, allowing them to spread the produce around without adding to their costs? this would work if the owners were not so greedy - we need them to be charitable, without loss to themselves, instead of being scrooges.
          Why don't YOU start up a business and YOU do it ?????

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          • Chrisjan B
            Gold Member

            • Dec 2007
            • 610

            #6
            Originally posted by HR Solutions
            Why don't YOU start up a business and YOU do it ?????
            Wonder ek ook mos....

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            • Dave A
              Site Caretaker

              • May 2006
              • 22803

              #7
              Originally posted by Brett Nortje
              this would work if the owners were not so greedy
              Could you please define a reasonable amount of greed - knowing what the reasonable limit is would be really helpful.
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              • wynn
                Diamond Member

                • Oct 2006
                • 3338

                #8
                Interesting article in today's 'Daily Maverick' on the predictions of Bill and Melinda Gates
                Fifteen years ago, the two of us made a bet. We started our foundation in 2000 with the idea that by backing innovative work in health and education, we could help billions of people improve their lives. The progress we’ve seen so far is so exciting that we are doubling down on the bet we made 15 years ago.


                The most interesting is in the comments section by johnbpatson. which echo's my earlier comment better than I could put it.


                "It is hard to be critical of people who have spent so much of their own money on disease research, especially malaria, and charitable work. Thank you above all, for setting an example.
                But, in order for objective one to be reached in Africa, the work will have to be done by NGOs like some of those you run and others you sponsor because governments will not do it. Does this matter? I am afraid it does, because even the Gates's billions are not limitless, and without government involvement the work will not be sustained.
                The same argument holds for objective two -- certainly most of Africa can feed its-self, especially if modern farming methods and techniques are used, but it will not do so till governments make doing so a priority. At the moment, I am afraid to say, the World Food Programme, Ofxam, and others mean food self-sufficency is not an African government priority -- hardly anyone starves in Africa anymore thanks to the rest of the world.
                I hope you are right about objectives three and four. One bit you did not mention is that as more people have reliable bank accounts, they enter the tax registers, often for the first time ever. Which is a good thing if they have good governments.
                So I hope the brains which managed to design the operating system running most computers in the world, applies them selves to the relatively simple task of good governance. Here is counting on you two!
                PS after you have done that possibly working with the Pope on population control would be a good thing..."
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                • Justloadit
                  Diamond Member

                  • Nov 2010
                  • 3518

                  #9
                  Originally posted by wynn
                  PS after you have done that possibly working with the Pope on population control would be a good thing..."
                  I think the pope has already said something about this

                  Pope Francis told reporters that Catholics don't have to be 'like rabbits'
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                  • Brett Nortje
                    Bronze Member
                    • Jan 2015
                    • 132

                    #10
                    Originally posted by Dave A
                    Could you please define a reasonable amount of greed - knowing what the reasonable limit is would be really helpful.
                    The state could decide.
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                    • Justloadit
                      Diamond Member

                      • Nov 2010
                      • 3518

                      #11
                      Originally posted by Brett Nortje
                      The state could decide.
                      Hahahahahahahahahahahaha, with the integrity of our local leaders, this will amount to what?
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                      • Brett Nortje
                        Bronze Member
                        • Jan 2015
                        • 132

                        #12
                        Originally posted by Justloadit
                        Hahahahahahahahahahahaha, with the integrity of our local leaders, this will amount to what?
                        They are after votes, so will make sure people get their share.
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                        • Chack
                          New Member
                          • Mar 2019
                          • 6

                          #13
                          This has already been said more than once.

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                          • ythewait
                            New Member
                            • Feb 2020
                            • 4

                            #14
                            If someone cannot afford food they go hungry and food is our basic need and anyone can't live without food. Food for humans is mostly made through farming or gardening.Food is what people and animals eat to survive . Food usually comes from animals or plants .
                            Vegetables.
                            Fruits.
                            Grains, Beans and Nuts.
                            Meat and Poultry.

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                            • sherinemuasher
                              Suspended
                              • Jul 2021
                              • 15

                              #15
                              ‘Giving before they spoil’ is not an option for businesses. So many of them would rather let food waste than give them away for free. There is a way however. Arrange an agreement with the supermarket or the farms to sell their yields on discount before expiry date so an organization, with the help of donations, can buy them then distribute to those who can’t afford it. These businesses won’t do it for charity.

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