SANS codes.

[I Robot]

I see the SANS codes are not available online.

Would an online version of SANS 10125 be useful. I can see about loading them and keeping them up to date. It would also be searchable, which might prove useful.

Any comments.

[Nicky]

Of course it would be useful! Absolutely! It would also be an excellent idea if you highlighted new regulations as soon as they are applicable.

[Jacques#1]

....Just make sure the one you post is not the version you pay for in the store ...it may upset a few guys up at SABS if you know what I mean.

[AndyD]

I see the SANS codes are not available online.

Would an online version of SANS 10125 be useful. I can see about loading them and keeping them up to date. It would also be searchable, which might prove useful.

Any comments.

How deep did you rummage? This is a link to a torrent file that looks promising, here's a few of the codes contained within;

Edit; If you're not sure what to do with the torrent file send me a pm and I'll show you how.


ACI-318-02 Building Code Requirements For Structural Concrete.pdf
ANSI EASA Standard AR100-2001 Recommended Practice for the Repair of Rotating Electrical Apparatu.pdf
Construction Standards for Small Vessels.pdf
Gold Coast SS12_StandardSpecifications2006[1].pdf
Haccp/9cfr417haccp.pdf
International Building Code 2006.pdf
ISO_9000'2000_An_A-Z_Guide.pdf
ISO_9000_Quality_Systems_Handbook_4E.pdf
LEED FAQ's.pdf
LEED_CI_2.0 REFERENCE GUIDE/CI Scorecard.xls
LEED_CI_v2.0_GUIDE.pdf
LEED_EB_v2.0_GUIDE.pdf
LEED_NC sample test.pdf
LEED_NC_scorecard_version_2_2.xls
LEED_NC_V2.2_GUIDE.pdf
National Electrical Safety Code Handbook
NEMA ICS 19 (2002).pdf
Portable Oxy-Fuel Gas Systems For Welding (Australian Standards).pdf
South Africa National Building Regulations SANS 10400
SANS10086-1.pdf
SANS10086-3.pdf
SANS10089-2.pdf
SANS10108.pdf
SANS10123.pdf
SANS10142-1(Amdt2).pdf
SANS10142-1.pdf
SANS10313.pdf
SANS60079-0.pdf
SANS60079-10.pdf
SANS60079-19.pdf
SANS61024-1-1.pdf
SANS61024-1-2.pdf
SANS61024-1.pdf
SANS61241-1.pdf
SANS61241-10.pdf
SANS61241-4.pdf
BY-LAWS RELATING TO ELECTRICITY SUPPLY.pdf
coc for electrical installations.pdf
CODE OF CONDUCT DESIGN AND CONSTRUCTION OF COLDSTORE.pdf
ELECTRICITY BY-LAW, 20.pdf
Emergency_lighting_Guidelines.doc
HEATED TOWEL RAILS- INSTALLATION IN THE BATHROOM.pdf
IEC600~1.PDF
IEC600~2.PDF
IEC600~3.PDF
OCCUPATIONAL HEALTH AND ASFETY ACT.pdf
Regulation - 2920 - OHS - Electrical Installation Regulation.doc
2007 Edition 2 Induction motors Part 1 IEC requirements.pdf
2007 Edition 1.4 Part 2 Low-voltage three-phase standard motors.pdf
Guide for the design and performance of cage induction motors .pdf
identification and classification of dangerous goods for transport.pdf
SANS10142-1 Amendment No. 5.pdf
SANS10142-1(Amdt2).pdf
SANS10142-1(Amdt3).pdf
SANS10142-1(Amdt4).pdf
The rewinding and refurbishing of rotating machines 3-phase.pdf
SANS10~2.PDF
Rewound and refurbished rotating electrical machines.pdf
SANS60269-2(IECamdt2)SUPPLEMENTARY REQUIREMENTS FOR FUSES.pdf
Surge Protection in Low Voltage Electrical Installations.pdf
The RS-232 Standard .pdf

[123]

https://www.sabs.co.za/index.php?page=standardspurchase

You can buy directly from sabs.

[wynn]

Post as many as you can in a wiki, never know when you may need one.

[murdock]

these would be very interesting threads.

if we could get hold of some past exam papers and post a question on the site per day then people could answer or assisst with understanding the code better...now that would be a good idea...it would be like a refresher course for some of us ....help with people doing the course and and at the same time make the public more aware of the codes and what is expected of electricians...

i purchased the code on cd but never updated.

[murdock]

and to make it more interesting add in some practical experiences from the inspectors....for example

while carrying out a inspection report...you come across a DB while is higher than 2.2 m above the ffl what action do you take and what would the recommendation be to solve this issue. (common problem encountered)

do you leave it as is and sign over the coc or do you lower the main switch to below 2.2 m.

another common one is the db in the cupboard...what do you do.

so now you buy a property and walk in the kitchen and find the db in the cupboard...if you are not an electrical inspector by reading these post you will know what to expect and if the inspector has been on the property.



the tv guy comes to fit you arial...what to expect...who puts the earth wire...and where do you connect it...all these type of question related directly to the public...it would make the public more aware and hopefully more people will take the time to contribute...or query installtions by posting pic of their queries.

[Jacques#1]

Ive got one too....... The new ammendment requires surge arrestors be installed in the house. They make reference to this on multiple pages, including a dedicated annexure (L).

What do you do if there is no more space in the DB??????????????

[123]

6.7.6 Surge protection
6.7.6.1 Surge protective devices (SPDs) may be installed to protect an
installation against transient overvoltages and surge currents such as those
due to switching operations or those induced by atmospheric discharges
(lightning). Amdt 1; amdt 6

Hi Jacques, do they mean "may be installed"? which does not not mean "must be installed"?

Regards-Christo

[murdock]

this is what i was hoping for...constuctive critism.

dave its time to scrap the generator thread and turn it into the sans code thread

[Dave A]

I'll be honest - it's exactly this type of interpretive discussion I've been hoping to see a lot more of on this forum.

[Jacques#1]

If you read Annexure L 1.2.1 Pg325 "Surge protection devices shall be installed at least in the main distribution board of an electrical installation"

I also read the "may" part, but then remembered two things:

1. An inspector once told me that the book may not always make sense, or there may be double standards, you have to interpret it in the safest reasoning possible.....so if you get a part that is "safer" than a contradicting statement somewhere in the book you must go with the "safer" option. This according to him will convince a judge in court that you were reasonable with the best and safest intentions.

2. On the ECA roadshow they discussed the changes. They talked about SPD's and the guy said for JHB its a no brainer, we have guy fox up here every second night with all the lightning, and supply is a problem every once in a while. He then also talked about CPT, said that the CPT guys said they never get lightning, showed a picture of this massive lightning bolt hitting close to table mountain (everybody laughed).....but more problematic is the CPT supply problems as I understand it.

Point is, theres a part in the code that says I must install it, and every new house/COC I do I install it. If you are doing a big complex the engineer specifies SPD's at every split in the electrical system. The main SUB, Mini SUb, Block subs and the flat subs.

[Jacques#1]

and to make it more interesting add in some practical experiences from the inspectors....for example

while carrying out a inspection report...you come across a DB while is higher than 2.2 m above the ffl what action do you take and what would the recommendation be to solve this issue. (common problem encountered)

do you leave it as is and sign over the coc or do you lower the main switch to below 2.2 m.

another common one is the db in the cupboard...what do you do.

so now you buy a property and walk in the kitchen and find the db in the cupboard...if you are not an electrical inspector by reading these post you will know what to expect and if the inspector has been on the property.



the tv guy comes to fit you arial...what to expect...who puts the earth wire...and where do you connect it...all these type of question related directly to the public...it would make the public more aware and hopefully more people will take the time to contribute...or query installtions by posting pic of their queries.

I'll answer these....I know you just made a statement and know these answers but...questions since someone may be reading them right now and wanting to know the answer?

1. As far as I know you can do an industrial jobbie on the main switch.......take a 1.5mm stainless steel rope, ferrule it around the switch, make the bottom end lower than 2.2m, loop it and ferrule it. Add a sign on the rope (switch off this main switch in the event.......), and one on the DB.

2. Db in the cupboard, put a lable on the cupboard door stating the DB is inside the cupboard, and must remain un-obstructed. Take a photo of the lable and you are set. (We all know the home owner pulls that ugly lable off before you turned on you ignition).

3. The TV guy should put an earth wire, some does others don't. They should also adhere to any standards related to their industry, regardless of its origin.

[123]

Annex L.1
(normative where surge protection
is required or installed (see 6.7.6))

It may be installed, and if it is installed, it shall be at least in the main db....

Thanks Jacques, I see your point.

I was more thinking as a requirement in order to validate a coc.

Is it a requirement then? Should the issuer of the coc install it if it is not present?