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  • Derlyn
    Platinum Member

    • Mar 2019
    • 1748

    #1

    Protected socket outlets

    May one make up your own protected socket outlet using a shroud and circuit breaker next to the outlet if surface mounted instead of buying a protected socket outlet ?

    It works out at about a third of the price if you make your own.
  • Alfred M
    Bronze Member

    • Feb 2022
    • 130

    #2
    You are talking about these socket Grabtree R264/unit
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    • GCE
      Platinum Member

      • Jun 2017
      • 1473

      #3
      Originally posted by Derlyn
      May one make up your own protected socket outlet using a shroud and circuit breaker next to the outlet if surface mounted instead of buying a protected socket outlet ?

      It works out at about a third of the price if you make your own.
      I would not recommend doing that as there are SANS regulations governing the make up of sockets and I am sure that one of them will be on protected sockets .

      You will find the list under Table 4.1 in SANS 10142-1

      Socket-outlets Specification covers the safety
      requirements for 1.1 Plugs, socket-outlets
      (fixed or portable, single or multiple), and
      socketoutlet adaptors with or without earth
      contacts intended for household and
      similar purposes, either indoors or
      outdoors with a rated voltage not
      exceeding 250 V ac and a rated current
      not exceeding 16 A.
      SANS 164-0, SANS 164-1, SANS 164-2, SANS 164-3, SANS 164-4, SANS
      164-5, SANS 164-6 and SANS 60884-1
      Socket-outlets (industrial type) ≤ 690 V; ≤ 250 A SANS 60309-1 and SANS 60309-2

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      • Derlyn
        Platinum Member

        • Mar 2019
        • 1748

        #4
        Originally posted by Alfred M
        You are ta[ATTACH=CONFIG]8484[/ATTACH]lking about these socket Grabtree R264/unit
        Over R300 after one has upgraded the 6A breaker to either a 16 or 20A.
        Everything bought seperately R140.

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        • Dylboy
          Gold Member

          • Jun 2020
          • 777

          #5
          You biscuit ! I have looked far and wide and alsed many people.... eventually gave up... but you have found what I have been looking for! Hahaha

          Where did you find it ?

          In the UK they have fused Connection Units which allow a fuse to be placed to protect smaller wires and sockets etc.

          That socket can solve quite a few issues.

          Thank you !

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          • Derlyn
            Platinum Member

            • Mar 2019
            • 1748

            #6
            Originally posted by Dylboy
            You biscuit ! I have looked far and wide and alsed many people.... eventually gave up... but you have found what I have been looking for! Hahaha

            Where did you find it ?

            In the UK they have fused Connection Units which allow a fuse to be placed to protect smaller wires and sockets etc.

            That socket can solve quite a few issues.

            Thank you !

            Sent from my SM-N960F using Tapatalk
            Make your own one.

            Definition of a protected socket outlet.

            3.62 socket outlet combined with, or adjacent to and protected by, a device that has either overload protection or overcurrent protection.

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            • Alfred M
              Bronze Member

              • Feb 2022
              • 130

              #7
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              • Justloadit
                Diamond Member

                • Nov 2010
                • 3518

                #8
                Just be aware, connecting a number of these sockets on the same supply wire may overload the wire while each socket is running below the circuit breaker current.
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                • Dylboy
                  Gold Member

                  • Jun 2020
                  • 777

                  #9
                  Brillaint! And thanks for the link as well !

                  I have in the past fitted this small single CB holder box next to the socket. How ever this option just looks so much neater.

                  Unless they have a module system where but I can get the yoke and cover plate then I can add my own socket outlet and the CB.

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                  • Dave A
                    Site Caretaker

                    • May 2006
                    • 22810

                    #10
                    Originally posted by Justloadit
                    Just be aware, connecting a number of these sockets on the same supply wire may overload the wire while each socket is running below the circuit breaker current.
                    The circuit would still require overcurrent protection at the DB based on the wire size of the circuit.
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