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  • ians
    Diamond Member

    • Apr 2010
    • 3943

    #1

    New SANS 10142-1:2021 (ed. 3.o1)

    A question ... back in the green book day you could purchase updates... remove the pages and replace with the new updates ... I take it this no longer applies.



    Time to increase the hourly rates or markup to try absorb these extra costs
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  • Dylboy
    Gold Member

    • Jun 2020
    • 777

    #2
    This is ridiculous! I got Ed 3 near the begging of the year and now its basically invalid.... what a farce... in the UK you get those individule pages and ammendments and they are free ! Here we need to purchase the whole book....



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    • ians
      Diamond Member

      • Apr 2010
      • 3943

      #3
      What has changed

      Table of changes
      Change No. Date Scope
      Amdt 1 2021 Amended to move reference to legislation and
      to an association to the foreword, to update
      the clauses on compliance, fundamental
      requirements, installation requirements,
      special installations or locations, and on
      verification and certification, and to update the
      annex on classification of safety services
      necessary for medical locations.
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      • ians
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        • Apr 2010
        • 3943

        #4
        Originally posted by Dylboy
        This is ridiculous! I got Ed 3 near the begging of the year and now its basically invalid.... what a farce... in the UK you get those individule pages and ammendments and they are free ! Here we need to purchase the whole book....



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        Talk about pissed off ... I thought I would do the right thing and buy ed 3 on the 8/11/2021 for over a R1000 ... and just spent another R1000+ this morning to see a few minor changes

        That is how it worked here in the past ... you purchased the book and them got the new updates and removed the old pages and slotted in the new pages ... maybe it still works like that here ... I am sure someone tell update us.
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        • Dylboy
          Gold Member

          • Jun 2020
          • 777

          #5
          Originally posted by ians
          What has changed

          Table of changes
          Change No. Date Scope
          Amdt 1 2021 Amended to move reference to legislation and
          to an association to the foreword, to update
          the clauses on compliance, fundamental
          requirements, installation requirements,
          special installations or locations, and on
          verification and certification, and to update the
          annex on classification of safety services
          necessary for medical locations.
          We need to form a small group and chip in some bucks and then we can share it and get all the new amendments and print those pages to add to our current books hahaha. Another grand for the new book is crazy....just dropped 450 to get my nose tickled and told negative on a test so my missus can go to work Monday... this country is taking the piss and just want us to pay pay pay with nothing in return

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          • Dylboy
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            • Jun 2020
            • 777

            #6
            Originally posted by ians
            Talk about pissed off ... I thought I would do the right thing and buy ed 3 on the 8/11/2021 for over a R1000 ... and just spent another R1000+ this morning to see a few minor changes

            That is how it worked here in the past ... you purchased the book and them got the new updates and removed the old pages and slotted in the new pages ... maybe it still works like that here ... I am sure someone tell update us.
            Ahhh man so sorry ! It is so crazy, we get these books to stay informed, how many other electricians purchase these books and keep them up to date... I wager not many at all!

            ED 3.01 is now on my Christmas wish list...

            Those changes that you mentioned, are they major and warrents getting the update sooner than later or can it hold off a bit?

            The message you sent they seem like major and important changes and info

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            • ians
              Diamond Member

              • Apr 2010
              • 3943

              #7
              I will go through it ... its 4126 kb smaller and 19 pages less than ed 3.0 ... I am assuming they have deleted a pile of stuff.
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              • ians
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                • Apr 2010
                • 3943

                #8
                eference is made in 3.10 to the "relevant national legislation". In South Africa
                this means the Occupational Health and Safety Act, 1993 (Act No. 85 of 1993).
                Amdt 1
                Reference is made in 3.31 and note 2 to clause 8 to the "relevant national
                legislation". In South Afirca this means the Engineering Profession Act, 2000
                (Act No. 46 of 2000). Amdt 1
                Reference is made in 6.2.3.1 to the "relevant national association". In
                South Africa this means the Association of Electric Cable Manufactures of
                South Africa. Amdt 1
                Reference is made in note 2 to clause 8 to the "relevant national regulation".
                In South Africa this means regulation 5(6) of the Electrical Installation
                Regulations, 2009, of the Occupational Health and Safety Act, 1993
                (Act No. 85 of 1993). Amdt 1
                The test report in edition 3 may be used in parallel with the test report in
                edition 3.1 for a period of 12 months from the date of publication of edition 3.1.
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                • ians
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                  • Apr 2010
                  • 3943

                  #9
                  3.10
                  Chief Inspector
                  Chief Inspector in terms of the relevant national legislation (see foreword)
                  Amdt 1
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                  • Dylboy
                    Gold Member

                    • Jun 2020
                    • 777

                    #10
                    What i cought with that now is that there will be a NEW CoC again to be in line with Ed 3.1. I wonder what all will change

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                    • ians
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                      • Apr 2010
                      • 3943

                      #11
                      3.31
                      electrical consultant
                      person who is registered in terms of the relevant national legislation
                      (see foreword) Amdt 1

                      Distribution boards ≤ 10 kA short-circuit current low-voltage
                      switchgear and controlgear
                      Assemblies > 10 kA
                      For outdoor use and exposed to public
                      Assemblies for construction sites
                      SANS 1973-3
                      SANS 1973-1 or SANS 61439-2
                      SANS 61439-5
                      SANS 61439-4

                      5.3.2 Voltage drop
                      5.3.2.1 When all conductors of an a.c. installation are carrying their maximum
                      estimated load, the difference in voltage (the voltage drop) between the point
                      of supply and any point of outlet or terminals of fixed appliances shall not
                      exceed 5 % of the standard voltage or of the declared phase-to-neutral
                      voltage (see also 6.2.7).

                      f) where the distribution board is concealed by a cupboard or other covering,
                      the notice for live electrical apparatus referred to in annex N shall be in a
                      conspicuous place indicating the position of the distribution board.

                      5.4.2 Voltage
                      The equipment shall be suitable for operation on the maximum steady (r.m.s.)
                      voltage and overvoltage to which it is likely to be subjected. Equipment shall
                      be rated in accordance with the intended application for use on one of the
                      following voltages used in South Africa:
                      a) A.C. circuits:
                      1) standard voltages at a point of supply of Amdt 1


                      6.2.3 Basis of tabulated current-carrying capacity
                      6.2.3.1 The current-carrying capacity of conductors and cables set out in this
                      clause takes account of IEC standards, where applicable. For types of cable
                      not covered in the relevant IEC publication (for example, armoured cables)
                      the current-carrying capacity given in this clause is based on data provided by
                      the relevant national association (see foreword). Amdt 1
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                      • ians
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                        • Apr 2010
                        • 3943

                        #12
                        6.2.7 Voltage drop
                        6.2.7.1 Difference in voltage (voltage drop)
                        6.2.7.1.1 When all conductors of an a.c. installation are carrying their design
                        load, the difference in voltage (the voltage drop) between the point of supply
                        and any point of outlet or terminals of fixed appliances shall not exceed 5 %
                        of the standard or declared voltage. (See 5.3.2, 5.4.2 and annex D.)
                        6.2.7.1.2 In the case of a 230/400 V system, the voltage drop for single-phase
                        circuits shall not exceed 11,5 V (5 % of 230 V) and the voltage drop for
                        three-phase circuits shall not exceed 20 V (5 % of 400 V). Amdt 1
                        6.2.7.1.3 In the case of single-phase circuits derived from three-phase
                        supplies with balanced loading, the phase-to-neutral voltage drop is calculated
                        from three-phase values divided by
                        3 . Amdt 1
                        6.2.7.1.4 For multiple installations connected in series (for example housing
                        schemes, etc) refer to 5.4.2 for overal voltage drop requirements. Amdt 1
                        NOTE 1 If the phase-to-neutral voltage is not declared, the value can be calculated by
                        dividing the phase-to-phase voltage by 1,73.
                        NOTE 2 Deleted by amendment No. 1.
                        6.2.7.1.5 When all conductors of a d.c. installation are carrying their
                        maximum estimated load, the difference in voltage (the voltage drop) between
                        any point of supply and any point of consumption shall not exceed 5 % of the
                        circuit nominal voltage or shall comply with the requirements of the
                        manufacturer of the equipment connected to the circuit. Amdt 1
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                        • ians
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                          • Apr 2010
                          • 3943

                          #13
                          6.5.2.2 Electrical continuity
                          Rigid metallic wireways shall be electrically continuous and be connected to
                          earth as close as possible to the source. Amdt 1
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                          • ians
                            Diamond Member

                            • Apr 2010
                            • 3943

                            #14
                            Table 6.22 is also marked as an amdt 1 ...it looks like they fixed the table which was missing 4 mm/16mm/50mm
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                            • ians
                              Diamond Member

                              • Apr 2010
                              • 3943

                              #15
                              NOTE It is recommended that earth leakage protection be installed in all circuits
                              that supply socket-outlets in existing installations prior to earth leakage becoming
                              compulsory. Amdt 1

                              6.7.7 External lightning protection
                              NOTE Where external lightning protection is installed, it should be in accordance with
                              the requirements of SANS 10313. Amdt 1

                              6.12.1 Earth continuity conductors
                              6.12.1.1 An earth continuity conductor shall
                              a) consist of compatible conductors,
                              b) if it forms part of a cable other than a flexible cable, comply with the relevant
                              requirements of the standard for the cable,
                              c) if it forms part of a flexible cable, be of the same material as, and have a
                              nominal cross-sectional area at least equal to, that of the largest phase
                              conductor,
                              d) be able to carry the prospective fault current without excessive temperature
                              rise of the conductor, within the disconnecting time,
                              e) if it does not form part of a cable or flexible cable, have a nominal
                              cross-sectional area in accordance with table 6.25 and if it equals to the
                              phase conductor size refer to table 6.28(a), as follows: Amdt 1
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