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  • Delta
    Full Member
    • Jan 2021
    • 46

    #1

    Heated towel rails

    Morning guys.

    I must install several heated towel rails in a few bathrooms.
    1 is RIGHT NEXT TO A BATH.

    How legal are these things?
    The thought that you can be in the bath and touch the rail concerns me.
    Will put on ELU.
    What else?

    Any thoughts
  • AndyD
    Diamond Member

    • Jan 2010
    • 4946

    #2
    There's very specific rules around electrical installations in bathrooms, read the regulations regarding electrical zones around baths.
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    • Delta
      Full Member
      • Jan 2021
      • 46

      #3
      If I do not include on coc and state in an additional page that it is not included would that be safe for me?

      Or is that bad practice.. Or acceptable?

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      • GCE
        Platinum Member

        • Jun 2017
        • 1472

        #4
        If you exclude parts of the electrical installation than the certificate is not valid.

        If you look at the regs around the zoning of a bath , yes you can fit a heater towel rail above the bath in zone 1 subject to the conditions listed in Table 7.1

        We were once asked if you could fit a heater towel rail in a shower and when we looked at dimensions , we could legally fit it .Was a bit bigger than a normal shower.

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        • Delta
          Full Member
          • Jan 2021
          • 46

          #5
          OK thanks
          Will whip out the regs book tonight and have a squizz thanks

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          • ians
            Diamond Member

            • Apr 2010
            • 3943

            #6
            I am busy with 2 heated towel rail installations ... they can be fitted next to the bath ... you just need to make sure you read the conditions as per the regs.
            Comments are based on opinion...not always facts....that's why people use an alias.

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            • Delta
              Full Member
              • Jan 2021
              • 46

              #7
              Checked my regs book.
              Will fall into zone 2.
              Onky problem is where do I put the isolator as it's a fixed appliance.
              No ceiling in this particular bathroom.
              An isolator mounted on tiles will look ugly.

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              • ians
                Diamond Member

                • Apr 2010
                • 3943

                #8
                I have used a 6 way 4x4 grid plate ... 3 x 20 amp D/P isolators (2 x heated towel rails and 1 x Xfan) on the bottom row and 3 light switches on the top row.

                You can use a 4x 2 ... but it beomes a little tight with all the wires in and out.

                The rules state with 1.5 m ... but once again ... a little common sense tells me its better to have the isolators on the light switch than in the bathroom ... a note on the COC ... justifying my logic.
                Comments are based on opinion...not always facts....that's why people use an alias.

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                • GCE
                  Platinum Member

                  • Jun 2017
                  • 1472

                  #9
                  I was involved with having to answer a query over heated towel rails which often crops up .
                  I am attaching a document below which will assist with future queries
                  Attached Files

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                  • Isetech
                    Platinum Member

                    • Mar 2022
                    • 2274

                    #10
                    I dont know that I would be happy with someone installing a heated towel rail in my shower cubicle ;(



                    Originally posted by GCE
                    I was involved with having to answer a query over heated towel rails which often crops up .
                    I am attaching a document below which will assist with future queries
                    Comments are my opinion, unless regulations are attached to support the comment. This is social media, not a court room.

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                    • GCE
                      Platinum Member

                      • Jun 2017
                      • 1472

                      #11
                      Originally posted by Isetech
                      I dont know that I would be happy with someone installing a heated towel rail in my shower cubicle ;(
                      This was not a shower cubicle that I was class as normal - Was about the size of my bathroom

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                      • Isetech
                        Platinum Member

                        • Mar 2022
                        • 2274

                        #12
                        I also had a few challenges with one of those recently, the shower (his and hers) was 3mx4m, heated towel rails, water feature with lights, water pumps, extractor fans the works. Fortunately I managed to find isolating 12 VDC drivers for the strip lights.

                        Originally posted by GCE
                        This was not a shower cubicle that I was class as normal - Was about the size of my bathroom
                        Comments are my opinion, unless regulations are attached to support the comment. This is social media, not a court room.

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