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  • Mellet L
    Suspended
    • Jul 2019
    • 7

    #1

    [Question] Neutral impedance

    Good afternoon.
    Can somebody please explain the new COC document with relation to neutral loop impedance and how are we to test for it??
    I know how to test for the Earth loop impedance using the T1825 meter, but how do we test for neutral impedance?? Please help.
    Thanking you kindly
  • AndyD
    Diamond Member

    • Jan 2010
    • 4946

    #2
    PEFC test will give you earth loop impedance, PSCC test will give you neutral loop impedance. On a TN-C-S or PME'd supply these test results should give identical results.
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    • Derlyn
      Platinum Member

      • Mar 2019
      • 1748

      #3
      Brother

      What I do, using the same impedance tester as you, is to swap the earth and neutral leads. ie. connect the black lead to earth and the green lead to neutral.

      You will then be doing a neutral impedance test, but as Andy said .... The readings should be identical.

      Maybe some of the other toppies can comment.

      Peace out ... Derek

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      • GCE
        Platinum Member

        • Jun 2017
        • 1473

        #4
        Came across 1 - New-Neutral-Loop-Impedance-Test-SANS-10142-1-Ed-3.pdf this article this morning and remembered the thread on Neutral impedance

        NOTE 1 For this test using the same instrument as per 8.6.5.1, both the
        neutral and earth clamps of the instrument will be connected onto the
        neutral conductor

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        • Lindley
          Full Member
          • Jul 2018
          • 28

          #5
          Originally posted by GCE
          Came across [ATTACH]8171[/ATTACH] this article this morning and remembered the thread on Neutral impedance

          NOTE 1 For this test using the same instrument as per 8.6.5.1, both the
          neutral and earth clamps of the instrument will be connected onto the
          neutral conductor
          thats correct!Also have it like that did unit standards early this year where they also instrcuted us to do it in that manner.

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          • ians
            Diamond Member

            • Apr 2010
            • 3943

            #6
            OR just buy a decent meter like a fluke 1654 ?
            Comments are based on opinion...not always facts....that's why people use an alias.

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            • Lindley
              Full Member
              • Jul 2018
              • 28

              #7
              Originally posted by ians
              OR just buy a decent meter like a fluke 1654 ?
              It has been discontinued!Great meter worked with 1 few months ago!

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              • Derlyn
                Platinum Member

                • Mar 2019
                • 1748

                #8
                I remember the thread on neutral impedance where I advised someone to swop the earth and neutral leads to get the neutral loop impedance.

                I was wrong.

                Please accept my humble apologies.

                Connecting both the earth and neutral leads to the neutral is of course the correct method.

                Peace out .. Derekk

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                • ians
                  Diamond Member

                  • Apr 2010
                  • 3943

                  #9
                  Yip us old people who look after our equipment ...dont keep up to date with the latest trends ... there is already a 1664 FC ... at only R482000.00 ... trying to justify that kind of outlay doing COC's at R600 could be a challenge

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                  Comments are based on opinion...not always facts....that's why people use an alias.

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                  • Derlyn
                    Platinum Member

                    • Mar 2019
                    • 1748

                    #10
                    Ian. I still have an AVO meter that gets used regularly.

                    I also prefer an old analogue megger. Needle to the left .. good. Needle to the right .. bad.😆

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                    • Derlyn
                      Platinum Member

                      • Mar 2019
                      • 1748

                      #11
                      Originally posted by ians
                      Yip us old people who look after our equipment ...dont keep up to date with the latest trends ... there is already a 1664 FC ... at only R482000.00 ... trying to justify that kind of outlay doing COC's at R600 could be a challenge

                      https://www.fluke.com/en-gb/product/.../fluke-1664-fc
                      Aren't there too many zero's in that price ?

                      I almost had an angina attack.

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                      • adrianh
                        Diamond Member

                        • Mar 2010
                        • 6328

                        #12
                        The real price ranges between R20k and R48k

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                        • ians
                          Diamond Member

                          • Apr 2010
                          • 3943

                          #13
                          Originally posted by Derlyn
                          Aren't there too many zero's in that price ?

                          I almost had an angina attack.
                          Yip ... only Dave can edit mistakes ... as my wife always tells me ... my mind ticks over at a rate my fingers cant keep up ... I am already on the 3 third sentence by the time my hands have typed what I have already forgotten ... and they say technology is so smart ... it cant even get the grammer and spelling right
                          Comments are based on opinion...not always facts....that's why people use an alias.

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                          • ians
                            Diamond Member

                            • Apr 2010
                            • 3943

                            #14
                            A scary thing to note ... I spent R150k about fluke test equipment ... I was told the reason the price was so expensive in SA because of the support ... blah blah blah.

                            Back then ...I could have taken a holiday to the USA ... had a week holiday or completed the training for the equipment and still had money in my pocket when I got home.
                            Comments are based on opinion...not always facts....that's why people use an alias.

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                              • May 2006
                              • 22810

                              #15
                              Originally posted by ians
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