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  • JustJohann
    Full Member
    • Aug 2009
    • 33

    #1

    [Question] Downlight connections



    What would you guys say about this connections ? Crimped together then heat-shrink over it. I want to say that if they just added another sleeve over it all to cover the single cores it would be ok ? Or what are your guys thoughts. Wanting to know as I now have to add extra down-lighters thats the same to this installation.
  • ians
    Diamond Member

    • Apr 2010
    • 3943

    #2
    The person who i sue to do my COC's on occassion would fail it for 2 reason ... 1 no connector on the earth and the other exposed wiring.

    I take a piece of 25 mm PVC pipe glue pushin glands on either side and bingo you have a joint protected ... or just use a coupling with 2 pushin glands.

    I use this method on flood light with those silly short 100 mm tails ...like radiant sells at ARB for around R60.
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    • JustJohann
      Full Member
      • Aug 2009
      • 33

      #3
      Forgot about the earth wire. Would also just crimp it with a ferrule.


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      • JustJohann
        Full Member
        • Aug 2009
        • 33

        #4


        Some of the other wonderful workmanship I found in the roof. Nou tape just capped with screwits.

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        • JustJohann
          Full Member
          • Aug 2009
          • 33

          #5


          This one was the best one ever. Wonder why there is a piece of cement under it ? I sent these to the customer and told him these needs fixing asap.

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          • Leecatt
            Silver Member

            • Jul 2008
            • 404

            #6
            For the first picture a three way pvc box with three push in glands. Hopefully there is enough cable on the light fitting to reach inside of the box. That should satisfy 6.3.7 & 6.4.3 of the regulations.

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            • Derlyn
              Platinum Member

              • Mar 2019
              • 1748

              #7
              Originally posted by ians
              The person who i sue to do my COC's on occassion would fail it for 2 reason ... 1 no connector on the earth and the other exposed wiring.

              I take a piece of 25 mm PVC pipe glue pushin glands on either side and bingo you have a joint protected ... or just use a coupling with 2 pushin glands.

              I use this method on flood light with those silly short 100 mm tails ...like radiant sells at ARB for around R60.
              Thanks for the tip, Ian. Tried your idea today. Simple, yet brilliant. Will use it for downlights as well in future.

              Peace out .. DerekClick image for larger version

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              • Leecatt
                Silver Member

                • Jul 2008
                • 404

                #8
                Originally posted by Derlyn
                Thanks for the tip, Ian. Tried your idea today. Simple, yet brilliant. Will use it for downlights as well in future.

                Peace out .. Derek[ATTACH=CONFIG]7971[/ATTACH]
                How is this legal?
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                • Lindley
                  Full Member
                  • Jul 2018
                  • 28

                  #9
                  Actually a very good idea DOES THE TWO PLUGS TURN OUT FROM EACH OTHER?
                  the lights cable is very short everybody is complain about it.

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                  • Leecatt
                    Silver Member

                    • Jul 2008
                    • 404

                    #10
                    Originally posted by Lindley
                    Actually a very good idea DOES THE TWO PLUGS TURN OUT FROM EACH OTHER?
                    the lights cable is very short everybody is complain about it.
                    Have a closer look at what it is

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                    • Derlyn
                      Platinum Member

                      • Mar 2019
                      • 1748

                      #11
                      Originally posted by Leecatt
                      How is this legal?
                      Hello brother. What, if I may ask, makes it illegal ? The connections inside are crimped with ferrules with heatshrink as insulation.

                      Peace out ... Derek

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                      • Leecatt
                        Silver Member

                        • Jul 2008
                        • 404

                        #12
                        Originally posted by Derlyn
                        Hello brother. What, if I may ask, makes it illegal ? The connections inside are crimped with ferrules with heatshrink as insulation.

                        Peace out ... Derek
                        6.3.7.2 b is a good place to start. There are others.....

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                        • ians
                          Diamond Member

                          • Apr 2010
                          • 3943

                          #13
                          I think its a brilliant idea ... or you can pay R85 for one of those silly joints which does pretty much the same thing.
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                          • ians
                            Diamond Member

                            • Apr 2010
                            • 3943

                            #14
                            Maybe what i should do is 3 D print a piece of plastic which can fit a pushin gland on either side and put a 20 mm round hole in the middle ... then its not in a connector, bend, elbow or Tee-piece of a conduit.

                            R 1.50 per pushin gland plus a piece of plastic R5.00 ... way cheaper than those silly little cable jointers sold for R50-R80 ... talk about a rip off.
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                            • Leecatt
                              Silver Member

                              • Jul 2008
                              • 404

                              #15
                              Originally posted by ians
                              Maybe what i should do is 3 D print a piece of plastic which can fit a pushin gland on either side and put a 20 mm round hole in the middle ... then its not in a connector, bend, elbow or Tee-piece of a conduit.

                              R 1.50 per pushin gland plus a piece of plastic R5.00 ... way cheaper than those silly little cable jointers sold for R50-R80 ... talk about a rip off.
                              I've been looking for cable joiners mainly for retrofitting joints in downlights correctly. If you have any info or pictures on the ones you have come across I would appreciate that.
                              The only ones that I could going are sold in the UK only.
                              Thank you

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