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  • Eskom
    Full Member
    • Sep 2015
    • 26

    #1

    [Question] Responsibility

    I have a question regarding somthing i was reading in an old post i was reading called inspection report. So my question is when you install say a pulg point/s and or extra light/s and issue the COC,do you (your coc) take responsibility for the alterations only or the whole installation as some one said in that post? OHS Act 11: only registered person may issue a coc after having himself/herself by means of inspection and testing. Then either 11a,11b or 11c is applicable. In this case its 11c an alteration on a installation wich exists prior to the publication of the current addition of the OHS Act. Section 3 on CoC you state the coc covers the alteration/s you made and section 4 comments of parts not covered by this report state that the rest of installation complies with section5 of sans10142 general safety principels. Now if something happens to someone on the part of installation your coc does not cover who is liable? Because there is lots of DIY customers adding to the installation because its cheaper and does not need a coc because he is not selling his house soon and he thinks your coc would cover everything. So who is liable? Oh an just thank to all on this forum an all posts on this forum, lots of great information sharing going on and lots of knowledge sharing. Thanks
  • SilverNodashi
    Platinum Member

    • May 2007
    • 1197

    #2
    Why is your nick "Eskom", if you ask this kind of question?
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    • Eskom
      Full Member
      • Sep 2015
      • 26

      #3
      Why the hell is your nick softdux? The nick is e relevant to the question or what i do.

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      • HR Solutions
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        • Mar 2013
        • 3358

        #4
        Why the hell is your nick softdux? The nick is e relevant to the question or what i do.
        It can be about what you do, but clearly you don't do this - its def not about the question

        So if you are a question about ....... say prostitution or frakking in the karoo.... are you going to change your "nick" everyime ?

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        • SilverNodashi
          Platinum Member

          • May 2007
          • 1197

          #5
          Originally posted by Eskom
          Why the hell is your nick softdux? The nick is e relevant to the question or what i do.
          wow, such hostility....

          In most cases, especially on a business forum, someone's nick indicates a representation of their company / business / background.
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          • Eskom
            Full Member
            • Sep 2015
            • 26

            #6
            Unfortunately my real name is already in use and our country is supplied by Eskom and yes i do have conections in Eskom so that is the reason for the nick so are you satisfied?

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            • HR Solutions
              Suspended

              • Mar 2013
              • 3358

              #7
              Wow 5 posts ..... and very cocky and arrogant. Do you not think you should just perhaps be a little bit more humble ?


              yes i do have conections in Eskom
              Why don't you ask them ? ...... just saying

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              • Dave A
                Site Caretaker

                • May 2006
                • 22810

                #8
                Originally posted by Eskom
                and yes i do have conections in Eskom
                Originally posted by HR Solutions
                Why don't you ask them ? ...... just saying
                Seriously?
                You have more faith in Eskom than I have, I'm afraid.

                And for clarity, that's the enterprise - not the person behind the TFSA username

                @ Eskom - I'd love to try to stop the abuse you're copping as a result of your chosen handle. Unfortunately it seems the river of vitriol that seems to flow in Eskom (the enterprise)'s direction seems to flow deep and strong.

                If you ever want to pick another username, just let me know.
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                • Dave A
                  Site Caretaker

                  • May 2006
                  • 22810

                  #9
                  Originally posted by Eskom
                  Now if something happens to someone on the part of installation your coc does not cover who is liable?
                  Theoretically the user or lessor. It wouldn't surprise me though if there wasn't a chase after the IE.

                  Originally posted by Eskom
                  Because there is lots of DIY customers adding to the installation because its cheaper and does not need a coc because he is not selling his house soon and he thinks your coc would cover everything. So who is liable?
                  Again the user or lessor. But from my experience you can rest assured the IE is going to be pressed to prove his/her innocence and that changes had been effected.
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                  • HR Solutions
                    Suspended

                    • Mar 2013
                    • 3358

                    #10
                    I'd love to try to stop the abuse you're copping as a result of your chosen handle.
                    uuummm I don't think it is abuse he is copping - I think it is retaliation to this:

                    Why the hell is your nick softdux?
                    so that is the reason for the nick so are you satisfied?
                    So perhaps Dave you should not always stick up for the noobie ......

                    If noobies say cocky little comments like this, then they will get answers like ours !

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                    • Eskom
                      Full Member
                      • Sep 2015
                      • 26

                      #11
                      Thanks Dave but im happy with the name although many are not happy with the company and their service. At the moment that company needs to change a lot of things starting with management. But in my first post i had a question and not a question about Eskom although my nick is that companies name.

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                      • Dave A
                        Site Caretaker

                        • May 2006
                        • 22810

                        #12
                        Originally posted by HR Solutions
                        So perhaps Dave you should not always stick up for the noobie ......
                        Rest assured I don't. Some noobs get mugged around here without ever even seeing the light of day
                        But then they're clearly begging for it...

                        Good to hear you're cool with things, Eskom
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                        • SilverNodashi
                          Platinum Member

                          • May 2007
                          • 1197

                          #13
                          Originally posted by Eskom
                          Thanks Dave but im happy with the name although many are not happy with the company and their service. At the moment that company needs to change a lot of things starting with management. But in my first post i had a question and not a question about Eskom although my nick is that companies name.
                          Perhaps you should consider that your question about electricity, and your nickname of "eskom" makes it rather difficult to get a serious answer..... The mere fact that you chose eskom suggests you know how electricity works (let's forget for a moment that most eskom technician's don't know either). By choosing a company related nickname, you automatically represent something related to said company.

                          Back to your question, as Dave said, it's a tough one to answer though I think it would be the home owner's decision, since he's not bound by any single COC - i.e. any person can change a plug once the COC has been signed off. The COC should have all the relevant changes made at that time. Any new changes should require a new COC, or an amendment. So if the home owner made changes, or paid someone else to make the changes, and it's not noted in the COC, it's his responsibility.

                          Proving who did what though could be a whole different story...
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                          • HR Solutions
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                            • Mar 2013
                            • 3358

                            #14
                            Some noobs get mugged around here without ever even seeing the light of day
                            But then they're clearly begging for it...
                            Exactly - they are begging for it ! They definitely should not just go barging in with an attitude and attacking fellow members after only a few posts !

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                            • sterne.law@gmail.com
                              Platinum Member

                              • Oct 2009
                              • 1332

                              #15
                              Liability requires, amongst others, proving causation.
                              That is, the damaging event is caused by the action of the defendant.

                              Factual causation is easy, the difficult one is legal.
                              So, I shoot Jack, who does not die, but whilst on his way to hospital the ambualnce is in a head on and Jack is killed.
                              Factually my shooting him caused his death because but for the shooting he would not have been in the ambulance.
                              However, the legal causation is the crash which has nothing to do with me.

                              It wpuld suggest that the plaintiff would need to prove that the damage causing event was caused by the installer etc.
                              Anthony Sterne

                              www.acumenholdings.co.za
                              DISCLAIMER The above is merely a comment in discussion form and an open public arena. It does not constitute a legal opinion or professional advice in any manner or form.

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