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  • Leecatt
    Silver Member

    • Jul 2008
    • 404

    #1

    Electric fences and SANS

    Does anyone have any information regarding the new addition of requirements of electric fences in SANS?
    To make a mistake is human, to learn from that mistake is knowledge and knowledge is strength.
  • Katenda
    Email problem
    • Sep 2009
    • 15

    #2
    Extra gun for the home owner when they cut it!
    Sorry, do not have the latest info.
    Just felt like increasing the voltage...and amps because the "released" person did not have anything to eat or wear and decided on the first day of his newly found freedom to come and help himself. Now I need to stay in a fenced in compound while my tax money need to pay for his accommodation.....next 6 years.
    Last edited by Katenda; 22-Nov-12, 07:18 AM.

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    • AndyD
      Diamond Member

      • Jan 2010
      • 4946

      #3


      sabs SANS 60335-2-76draft.pdf
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      • Yuri
        Full Member
        • Sep 2012
        • 39

        #4
        Originally posted by Leecatt
        Does anyone have any information regarding the new addition of requirements of electric fences in SANS?
        I just found this

        14 (1) Application for registration as a registered person shall be made to
        the chief inspector in the form of Annexure 2, and shall be accompanied by the
        registration fee prescribed by regulation 23.
        (2) Any natural person who satisfies the chief inspector that he or she has
        sufficient knowledge of the safety standards applicable to electric fence systems
        may be registered by the chief inspector as a registered person.
        (3) The chief inspector shall furnish a registered person with a certificate of
        registration, and enter such registration into the national database.
        (4) A registered person shall on request produce his or her certificate of
        registration to any inspector and any supplier or any person for whom he or she
        intends to install an electric fence system and issue an electric fence certificate.


        Gido specialises in electric fencing, gate and garage door motors, CCTV systems, alarm systems, and intercom systems.




        The Electrical Machinery Regulations 2011 promulgated under the Occupational
        Health and Safety Act (Act. No. 85 of 1993) state:
        Application for registration as registered person
        14 (1) ‘Application for registration as a registered person shall be made to the chief
        inspector in the form of Annexure 2 (see page 12) and shall be accompanied by the
        registration fee prescribed by regulation 23. (The current fee is R120.00 and the
        address of the chief inspector is: Department of Labour, Occupational Health and
        Safety, PB X117 Pretoria 0001)
        (2) Any natural person who satisfies the chief inspector that he or she has sufficient
        knowledge of the safety standards applicable to electric fence systems may be
        registered by the chief inspector as a registered person.
        (3) The chief inspector shall furnish a registered person with a certificate of registration,
        and enter such registration into the national database.
        (4) A registered person shall on request produce his or her certificate of registration
        to any inspector and any supplier or any person for whom he or she intends to install
        an electric fence system and issue an electric fence certificate.
        However, at present (September 2012) there is no recognised governmental course
        for an installer to attend and no examinations that they can take which will enable
        them to be recognised as a competent installers (‘registered person’). Interim
        measures are being put in place by the government in order to meet the requirements
        of the regulations and will involve the co-operation of those companies that regularly
        run training courses in Basic Electric Fence Installation.
        It is envisaged that there will be Theory and Practical sections to the training and
        testing. For those installers who have years of experience in the field there will
        be Recognition of Prior Learning (RPL) which for them will short circuit some of
        the learning and testing. For those who are new to the industry, a third section is
        envisaged – Experiential Learning which will require a period of Internship.
        Last edited by Yuri; 22-Nov-12, 06:56 PM.

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        • Leecatt
          Silver Member

          • Jul 2008
          • 404

          #5
          Originally posted by Yuri
          I just found this
          Thanks. Does anyone know where to purchase the certificates?
          I believe this is a not so well thought out plan
          To make a mistake is human, to learn from that mistake is knowledge and knowledge is strength.

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          • Yuri
            Full Member
            • Sep 2012
            • 39

            #6
            I called the chief inspector and asked him what the requirements is for a electric fence regesterd person is

            What i found out is that you neen a letter from south african electric fence installers association
            Then fill out annexure 2
            2 photos and R120

            Last edited by Yuri; 23-Nov-12, 01:09 PM.

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            • Leecatt
              Silver Member

              • Jul 2008
              • 404

              #7
              Originally posted by Yuri
              I called the chief inspector and asked him what the requirements is for a electric fence regesterd person is

              What i found out is that you neen a letter from south african electric fence installers association
              Then fill out annexure 2
              2 photos and R120

              http://saefia.net/
              Thanks Yuri. There is an excellent FAQ section which answered all my questions
              To make a mistake is human, to learn from that mistake is knowledge and knowledge is strength.

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              • ians
                Diamond Member

                • Apr 2010
                • 3943

                #8
                If the electric fence is plugged in?

                no need for certificates etc?

                I have just completed an installation which had an electric fence installed, they requested a plug point and i excluded the fence from my COC.

                What happens when they sell the building?
                Comments are based on opinion...not always facts....that's why people use an alias.

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                • Dave A
                  Site Caretaker

                  • May 2006
                  • 22810

                  #9
                  It looks like this falls outside of (or in addition too, depending on how you look at it) the electrical installation regs, Ian.
                  Participation is voluntary.

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                  • Yuri
                    Full Member
                    • Sep 2012
                    • 39

                    #10
                    I called one of the members of SAEFIA he told me there are currently only temporary certificates for electric fence businesses that has been around for a long time

                    Curently there are no tests to get a certificate thy will make a test in the future ...

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                    • Sparks
                      Gold Member

                      • Dec 2009
                      • 909

                      #11
                      Being a fixed appliance the fence would form part of the installation despite being on a plugtop. The plugtop would serve the purpose of "Isolating", as per the regs, not "exclusion".

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                      • Leecatt
                        Silver Member

                        • Jul 2008
                        • 404

                        #12
                        Originally posted by Sparks
                        Being a fixed appliance the fence would form part of the installation despite being on a plugtop. The plugtop would serve the purpose of "Isolating", as per the regs, not "exclusion".
                        Yes, I would be inclined to agree with this statement
                        To make a mistake is human, to learn from that mistake is knowledge and knowledge is strength.

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