SIM card activation enema!

[Frankincense]

@Loman: "Whats to stop a lot of fictional tribal chiefs from appearing all of a sudden?"

...the idea is to have all "those that matter' identification placed on a RFID chip, and ensure only those able to participate in this party......actually take part....

Get it?....

[Martinco]

Just one more thing bugging me:
I've read that if you live on tribal land a letter from your tribal chief would do.

On the above, I went into FNB to FICA and had the following with me: ID and a letter from our chairman of the homeowners association stating that I live at the address. ( I have NO accounts , municipal account or phone bill with my residential address ..........all go to my post box as there is no postal delivery where I stay ).
In front of me was a black man who FICAed with a letter from his headman.
So I am ok.........................not so !
" Sorry sir, we only allow black people to FICA with a letter from the chief "
No amount of argument could change this and I had get a business to make me an invoice for goods showing my home address before I could FICA.

Is the word we are looking for maybe "Discrimination" ?

[tec0]

Discrimination is a meaningless word to me. There are a lot of things I don’t get about our country. Fact is if a white person stays on a piece of land “squatting -> Occupy (a dwelling or land) illegally” this person will be forcefully removed prosecuted and possibly jailed.

I don’t know but one thing I do know is that some people “face more control and harsher penalties” then others. So what can you do? Nothing, fact is you are already a statistic and frowned upon by employers, companies and so on. Your opportunities and that of your children are limited to the point where there is no real future anymore.

Sadly this is just one more example that equality still needs a lot of work...

[Dave A]

And yet as "head of household," I can write a letter that my son lives at the house and this is accepted for FICA purposes.

[Martinco]

Well, all I can say is that I give up ! This is a cruel world we live in.

[Frankincense]

...there's a whole lotta VIP's who agree the earth should roll with around 500 000 000 (1/2Billion)....so many must die as we on 6 Billion...and by institutionalizing racism (be it Apartheid or BEE) ...one can prolong suffering.


A very wise man once said "...Until the colours of a man's skin matter no more than the colours of his eyes, it will be war" ....and this war is of darkness and light...until The Light flushes the dark....it gets worse.

[tec0]

Well I feel that we are off topic but what the hell why not... I quote myself “I can think of a million ways to make this world a better place but I can see a million people fighting to keep it as it is.”

The truth is this mobile registration thing is needed to help stop crime and yet not a single stolen mobile phone was recovered. Now that is just one more example of a nice BS story. So yes we can add our own truths and understanding.

But in the end of the day it is simple, used it or lose it... the choice is always there and yes a mobile phone IS important and will stand by this, until there is no more power to drive the mobile services all you have then is a impressive looking paper-weight. So we will be monitored 24 7 well you never have to feel alone again knowing that the government man is waiting in the dark hoping that you will step out of line so that they can make an example of you.

Still the power is always with the people. All we have to do is to stand up and say there is no benefits in mobile registration please get rid of it or we stop using them. Give them a week to think it over and then switch the phones of and let the stockholders sweat!

Sadly we have millions of individuals and all of them are too selfish to stand and do what needs to be done. So in the end you will pay this do that and your individuality will account for nothing because it doesn’t really help much if you are an individual but you don’t have any rights....

[Martinco]

What do imagine the result would be if you do not RICA ?
Will Vodacom switch off all 6 my accounts and have no income for some time ?

[Dave A]

Probably - although how long you'd be switched off for would lie to some extent in your own hands.

I reckon get it over and done with. There is bound to be a SNAFU when the crunch comes. And hold onto those RICA confirmation messages too.

[tec0]

The truth is that there was a time before the mobile service and if wireless technologies in the computer department get its way we will soon be able to put the phones down once again. Yes there is currently a lot of development when it comes to shortwave data transmissions and with wave hopping the possibility exists that we may be able to use it as an alternative to mobile and even land-line phones.

Thanks to innovations like “IP6” everyone can have an IP address in an intranet based system and with powerful enough shortwave technologies video and voice is becoming a real possibility. So if I was in the telecommunications industry now will be a time to worry.

Also in the UK you are now ask to pay broadband tax? Well yes if you want to monitor every single user you will need a system and that system cost money... So RICA can be looked at in a similar light. Not long from now we will be asked to pay a mobile licence fee of X per year and like our TV licence it will be forced on us as a public.

[carm]

Oh we south african's are funny people. We want to act like people overseas and be a first world country but when comes down o putting systems in place we complain.

Oh FICA, RICA. my identity. Is your life so interesting that you are scared to register. I could not care less if someone tracks my sms mms. the poor guy will be caught sleeping on the job, my life is so mundane. I have nothing to hide.

Now we talk of chip's in our bodies, ques to be identified. How do you know it is not already there from innoculations or flu vaccines. People people people.
Shall we all pull out a knife and start cutting. They never told us about aliens landing years ago. Ahhg

So now you are phoneless. What now? Can't get a contract, Telkom, pay as you go because you might get identified. Golly! Forbid! Crimanals steal they always will, some will get caught and some won't. You will place yourself in a hole because you don't see the point of complying.

We want to move forward but our paranoya keeps us in the past.

[tec0]

Well even madness is a gift if you embrace it. See the point is not mobile tracking or reading your SMS’s and you’re MMS’s. It comes down to the fact that your privacy is being stripped and nothing GOOD is coming from it.

The point of mobile registration is to stop the criminal form steeling mobile phones. Now if you look at how many people die just because they have a mobile phone one may realise the importance of registration.

However if it is just another spy tool to be selfishly used when the need is there you can clearly see what the main problem is here.

Look to be blunt, if you want to accept everything and allow everyone to do whatever they please when it comes to your constitutional rights then you are missing the point. But again why not...

The thing is there will always be someone that wants to use something against you, now if your SMS’s to your friends become a written document and can be used against you when the need is there then it is the perfect blackmailing tool. Especially if you are a politician or someone that is considered “a fret”

Still think it is paranoia? Right... mmm jip we are just collection of stupid idiots sorry... it is YOUR world I just live in it...

[Emilganos]

That's a big point of cellphone user, I think we need to really know more about what we are using, All the networks provider must take their responsibilities and febore releasing any SIM card be assured that the quick activation is possible or their call center can provider it. Yes 2010 will cost a veritable problem to sim card retailers. CellC, Vodacom, MTN, Virgin mobile, must change their sim card releasing strategies, For example a few months ago I've bought CellC sim Card to use but I could not using it because of the same issues. I think they are making money by providing those kind of bad services. if thy can sell 100,000 sim card at R5/sim card they are making R500,000.00 that is unfair. By the same time People like me are struggling to make things happen. certains persons are cheatting.

[tec0]

Well if one look at the millions generated a month by mobile users I find it strange that I still have o by a bloody SIM card every time I buy a new phone! What is the point of that! Think about this, if I have 15 SIM cards registered to me because I go through mobile phones like toilet paper but I still only use the one number then one realise how corrupt unfair and bogus this exercise really is.

So they live to make work for RICA and above all if you start to pay for a mobile licence in the near future I will have to pay for 15 SIM cards “in counting” that I am not even using! AND if one of those bloody SIM cards get misplaced or used for criminal activities I get be in trouble absolutely free!

So what will it be? Stop forcing the sale of SIM cards and allow people do buy phones OR just stop upgrading handsets and not having to deal with registration? Now I wish they will reply on this post but the changes for that happening is 0... pity that...

[tec0]

Is your phone actually registered?

My internet SIM is Vodacom and I thought it was registered since I had to give my ID and prove of residence when I got it a few months ago. Turns out my phone was blocked because my registration was never done. But it gets better.

I phoned MTN and asked them if my phone is registered for RICA because I had to give them my ID and prove of residence when I got my phone. I was not registered.

Then my backup SIM a Virgin Mobile SIM card. Now I made damn sure I gave them everything because this phone is used for emergencies and there is always money on it. When I checked it today it was deactivated and I was told again that my NEW SIM was not registered!

Well now I have to take a day and get all of this done again but this time I am taking a form with me! Yes I am drafting a form and the person doing my registration will fill it in and make a copy for themselves. My reason for this is if any of my phones is still not registered after that day! I will go to court and sue them for negligence.

Now it is worth remembering that the information you give out at that point in time can be used for Identification theft and this time around I am making sure that I am covered.