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  • Dave A
    Site Caretaker

    • May 2006
    • 22807

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    Seacom has already affected broadband pricing

    Just the threat of landing a 15 000km fibre optic undersea cable on South Africa's shores has forced down broadband prices 90%, according to Seacom's president Brian Herlihy.

    He says that when Seacom announced its intention to launch the $600-million undersea cable project, operators in South Africa were pricing broadband at R8 000 per megabit per month and that prices have now dropped as low as R800 per megabit per month. "We have created competition before we even landed the cable," says Herlihy.

    But Seacom plans to halve these prices again when it enters the market in June 2009 with a price of R435 per megabit per month.

    "With only eight months to go before the system is ready for service, Seacom remains set to become the first cable to connect East and Southern Africa to the rest of the world with plentiful and inexpensive bandwidth," says Herlihy.

    He says a simple calculation shows that South Africa needs about 50 gigabits of international capacity to service the one million broadband subscribers in the country, but has only 10 gigabits.

    "International capacity has been choking the data market in Africa for years now," says Herlihy.

    Initially Seacom will deliver 80 gigabits of international capacity through its cable but can meet more demand easily because the cable has a potential capacity of 1,28 terabits (1 280 gigabits).
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  • wynn
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    • Oct 2006
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    #2
    Aah!! but as has been mentioned before, who is laying glass to my door?
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    • Dave A
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      • May 2006
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      #3
      Neotel with any luck. Seacom had to partner with them for the SA landing rights because of our restrictive legislation anyway.
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      • Loman
        Silver Member

        • Nov 2008
        • 298

        #4
        That is all well for those in big cities, but what about us poor country folk that only barely get dial up?

        At the moment i've got a edge modem on contract since we have no 3G, but i can only use it about 20% of the time and even then when my download reaches 15kb/s i get cut off. Thats why i also have internet through my telkom line but its terrible.

        It would seem satellite is the only way but it way too expensive for me.
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        • Dave A
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          • May 2006
          • 22807

          #5
          Originally posted by Loman
          At the moment i've got a edge modem on contract since we have no 3G, but i can only use it about 20% of the time and even then when my download reaches 15kb/s i get cut off. Thats why i also have internet through my telkom line but its terrible.
          Ouch!

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          • Loman
            Silver Member

            • Nov 2008
            • 298

            #6
            I have to stop myself from checking iburst and neotel's coverage map daily. I'll can't wait to get broadband but i'll be content with anything better than what i have now.
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            • BonaFide
              Junior Member
              • Jan 2009
              • 24

              #7
              Originally posted by Dave A
              He says that when Seacom announced its intention to launch the $600-million undersea cable project, operators in South Africa were pricing broadband at R8 000 per megabit per month and that prices have now dropped as low as R800 per megabit per month. "We have created competition before we even landed the cable," says Herlihy.
              I think it is a bit rich stating that they were the cause for the dropping of the prices. It is a pity that even though the broadband pricing for wholesalers has dropped to 10% of what it used to be, we have yet to fully feel the effects of this as endusers.

              It is pointless making statements such as this when we the consumers are still subjected to some of the most expensive broadband prices worldwide.

              The pampering of Telkom by the DoC and ICASA has done little to help reduce the cost of telecommunications and there is no indication of that changing anytime soon even with the ruling against the DoC allowing VANS to self-provide and the emerging SNO, Neotel. ICASA has thwarted this victory by delaying (once again) the issuing of licenses to the VANS.

              A very sorry state of affairs to say the least.

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              • BonaFide
                Junior Member
                • Jan 2009
                • 24

                #8
                Originally posted by Loman
                I have to stop myself from checking iburst and neotel's coverage map daily. I'll can't wait to get broadband but i'll be content with anything better than what i have now.

                I would not rely on iBurst rolling out and extending their network anytime soon. Vodacom are in the process of taking over iBurst and it looks like they have put a moratorium on future expansion to concentrate on entrenching the HSDPA and WIMAX products (WIMAX license through their shareholding in iBurst/WBS coincidentally).

                Neotel is concentarting on the FBU areas (as was to be expected) and once again it seems the rural and outlying areas are going to be overlooked (as they were when cellphone coverage was first rolled out).

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                • garthu
                  Gold Member

                  • Dec 2008
                  • 595

                  #9
                  Neotel is OK... but just OK. The promise of 1m/s or 800k/s (i think it was) is far off. get excited when i get i get speeds of 100k/s (not often) more often around 30-40k/s. Still better than what you have Loman, maybe, but be very cautious if the signal strengh is medium or low. When i use it in low signal i get frustrated and generally give up with it - although the calls are ok. I gave up iburst for neotel which i didn't regret. Something else is to wifi it there is not network socket so have to network through a pc to wi/fi. WOW does it get tempremental then! (but then i'm not a pc wiz either) Much as i hate to openly admit, still love a good fashioned adsl 512 or 1m connection - as long as it doesn't need repair!
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                  • Loman
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                    • Nov 2008
                    • 298

                    #10
                    Originally posted by BonaFide
                    Neotel is concentarting on the FBU areas (as was to be expected) and once again it seems the rural and outlying areas are going to be overlooked (as they were when cellphone coverage was first rolled out).
                    Noooooo, why does this keep happening to me? I can't go through that again.
                    I should probably get the fudge out of the "rural and outlaying areas", its so depressing.
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                    • BonaFide
                      Junior Member
                      • Jan 2009
                      • 24

                      #11
                      Originally posted by garthu
                      Neotel is OK... but just OK. The promise of 1m/s or 800k/s (i think it was) is far off. get excited when i get i get speeds of 100k/s (not often) more often around 30-40k/s. Still better than what you have Loman, maybe, but be very cautious if the signal strengh is medium or low. When i use it in low signal i get frustrated and generally give up with it - although the calls are ok. I gave up iburst for neotel which i didn't regret. Something else is to wifi it there is not network socket so have to network through a pc to wi/fi. WOW does it get tempremental then! (but then i'm not a pc wiz either) Much as i hate to openly admit, still love a good fashioned adsl 512 or 1m connection - as long as it doesn't need repair!
                      As experienced by many of the people who have signed up for their services. At present there really is not much to get excited about with Neotel, but by the same token they have the inenviable task of rolling out a national network to as many people as possible who want to switch from Telkom. This in itself is not an excuse for bad service or for a product that does not live up to expectations. There are many that believe that the CDMA2000 protocol that they chose was not the wisest choice as it is a technology coming to the end of its lifespan.

                      But then there are many who believe that WIMAX is over rated, so what are the options? In terms of their handsets they made a HUGE blunder in bringing out handsets with no RJ45 (ethernet) port for networking and even worse was the fact that when you made a call it interrupted the internet connection (aproblem one would not experience with ADSL for instance or for that matter iBurst - although their product leaves much to be desired in its own right). They have however attempted to rectify this with a new router (WIFI and wired) and handset that is in the offing, but as they say, why bother closing the stable door when the horse has bolted - there are many that already view Neotel in the same light as Telkom.

                      Originally posted by Loman
                      Noooooo, why does this keep happening to me? I can't go through that again.
                      I should probably get the fudge out of the "rural and outlaying areas", its so depressing.
                      Not just you. There are many in the rurual and outlying areas that NEED broadband. The company that does well is the company that concentrates on these areas with reasonably priced products.

                      Have you contacted Telkom in respects of their WIMAX or 3G (cheaper than VC or MTN) products to see if they do cover your area?

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                      • Loman
                        Silver Member

                        • Nov 2008
                        • 298

                        #12
                        Originally posted by BonaFide
                        Not just you. There are many in the rurual and outlying areas that NEED broadband. The company that does well is the company that concentrates on these areas with reasonably priced products.

                        Have you contacted Telkom in respects of their WIMAX or 3G (cheaper than VC or MTN) products to see if they do cover your area?
                        No 3G, only Edge. WIMAX??? How does that work? It doesn't really matter cos we probably don't have it anyway.
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                        • BonaFide
                          Junior Member
                          • Jan 2009
                          • 24

                          #13
                          Originally posted by Loman
                          No 3G, only Edge. WIMAX??? How does that work? It doesn't really matter cos we probably don't have it anyway.
                          WIMAX technology is being rolled out by Telkom, Neotel (when they deem it time to do so), iBurst/Vodacom (waaaa.......aaaay over priced). http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WiMAX Give Telkom a buzz and see if they cover you. Speeds up to 512kbps.

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