Internet connectivity in South Africa

[RKS Computer Solutions]

No matter which way you look at it, Telkom is still raping this country...

[stephanfx]

There has been so many petitions, boycotts, what-have-yous, and every time they just shrug and say, lets see you try it otherwise. When is there going to be some decent competition for this evil entity? When is Neotel going to try and come up for a taste of the pie?

[RKS Computer Solutions]

Neotel (http://www.neotel.co.za) was supposed to launch for business in JHB/PTA 1 June 2007, but nothing has come of it because the idiots at ICASA is not very keen on getting out of their beds in the morning and actually putting in a decent days work....

Until ICASA gets the finalities sorted, we can only wait with baited breath...

[Dave A]

This whole SNO - Neotel business has taken forever. When it comes to the launch of Neotel services, let's just say I hope it doesn't take them that long to get in a line when you order.

[stephanfx]

I must say that this does not bode well for their service delivery. If one can not meet a launch date, then what can be expected of ones services, never mind the support :P

[duncan drennan]

I must say that this does not bode well for their service delivery. If one can not meet a launch date, then what can be expected of ones services, never mind the support :P

That's a bit unfair. Most of the delays have been due to things out of their control, namely ICASA and Minister Ivy. There has been much dragging of feet, and Neotel are losing out as a result. Their possible competitive advantage is constantly being eroded by Telkom and the wireless operators. They are operating AFAIK, but just not for residential customers yet.

Check out http://www.neotel.co.za

[Snoopy_inc]

Ok guys.
I guess its called for me to give you a quick run down of this:

SNO/ Neotel is comprised of multiple coporations that are built together to become the next service provider. They were licensed a while ago by ICASA so ICASA delayed them but they are not the hold up now.

SNO has been hard at work gaining the corporate clients. We talking about Massive coporates as well as building their so called anchor clients. They are out there already they just havent opened up market for the end user and small businesses.
I have been very involved in the Telecoms movement and worked on quite a bit. Not to mention im the IRC master for myadsl.co.za. (run the channel for them)

All this info has been posted on myadsl.co.za website. and is available to all to visit and view it.

[stephanfx]

Unfair, maybe a bit, it is just that the other companies (Telkom) set a deadline for 1 August and they meet that deadline, and this is from ICASA ( the approval of new prices). Is there then not a way to support neotel to come to the table earlier, so that the rest of us might be able to benefit somewhat from their existence?

[Dave A]

All this info has been posted on myadsl.co.za website. and is available to all to visit and view it.

But we were having so much fun in this thread
Kinda the short version

[duncan drennan]

If you have a look at Neotel's FAQ, they should be rolling out a residential trial this month.

They had to wait for all the approvals, but now they are busy building the back bone and, as Snoopy pointed out, bringing on their large customers first. Unfortunately it does just take time.

[stephanfx]

okay, sorry Neotel, I just do not want a Telkom line in my life again. My impatience is a negative attribute of my personality, but sometimes it gets the job done just a bit faster I will wait for them and see what they offer.

[Snoopy_inc]

Can i tell you something.... Saying you want to move from telkom is like saying you want to cut your air for a short of breath each day.

Let me explain:

Neotel will not go into a price war with Telkom so you wont get better pricing for starters.... secondly they will pull up their pants when neotel really becomes the competition and when that happens im staying with telkom... they have the infrastructure and the setup already. Maybe in 5 years time or so when they both have similar structures etc then i will look at both as options..... just saying you going to move to neotel cause telkom sucks wont help you and is a very short sighted statment.

[Dave A]

This is a bit like the SAA vs Kalula.com debate.

Someone has to support the underdog if your ever going to stop the big bully from doing whatever it likes.

[stephanfx]

That is exactly what I am, an underdog supporter, except when the Bulls are the underdogs, then I might NOT support the underdogs

[RKS Computer Solutions]

Snoopy, are you being paid by Telkom to talk good about them? Have you been living in the dark ages? Have you not read a single one of my posts regarding what Telkom is doing to this country?