Lucky Stars South Africa, Launching Now, Calling Leaders

**australasiabiz** · 13-Jun-09, 04:32 PM

Thanks

Thank you for moving this to the correct section. It was not till i submitted it notices there was an MLM Industry section on the forum. So thanks Again.

**Marq** · 13-Jun-09, 05:23 PM

play for free forever if you tell 2 friends

What is it with mlm and this 2 friends bit?

It used to be 2 family members but I guess they caught on.

This one you can win reward chips....mmmm......fish and chips?

**IanF** · 13-Jun-09, 06:47 PM

Pearse Donnelly
I am confused your business is Australia based and you are based in UK. Are there easier pickings there? Or am I reading it wrong?

**australasiabiz** · 13-Jun-09, 09:05 PM

Originally posted by Marq

What is it with mlm and this 2 friends bit?

It used to be 2 family members but I guess they caught on.

This one you can win reward chips....mmmm......fish and chips?

Hello, thank for your responce. The two friends bit was just something I added when I say friends I mean two people you know weather they be in your current network or otherwise.

Originally posted by IanF

Pearse Donnelly
I am confused your business is Australia based and you are based in UK. Are there easier pickings there? Or am I reading it wrong?

Lucky Stars is owned by a European company Happi Group Ltd. I was directly involved in launching Lucky Stars Into Asia. Before this I was involved in their european opportunity www.happi6.com/affiliates.

I was aksed to help launch the Asian Opportunity that is why I am involved in the Asian Business also.

My website that has the video is called australasiabiz australasia takes in all the regions around asia and Australia.

Lucky Stars is currently available in the following countries
Australia, Bangladesh, Hong Kong, India,
Indonesia, Japan, Korea (South), Malaysia,
New Zealand, Pakistan, Philippines, Singapore, Taiwan, Thailand, Viet Nam
Nepal,New Zealand, Sri Lanka,Russia
China

And as of 2 weeks ago it is now available to South Africa.

**totius54** · 14-Jun-09, 10:23 AM

this is nothing more than a pyramid scheme and is not legal in South Africa .This works at the beginning because new people join by the drowes , as soon the numbers decline it colaps and every body is out of pocket except the first few million.

What is the contact details in South Africa.

**australasiabiz** · 15-Jun-09, 05:19 AM

Thanks

Originally posted by totius54

this is nothing more than a pyramid scheme and is not legal in South Africa .This works at the beginning because new people join by the drowes , as soon the numbers decline it colaps and every body is out of pocket except the first few million.

What is the contact details in South Africa.

So there is such a thing now as a legally licensed by government pyramid scheme is there?

It is a 2x2 Binary Matrix compensation plan with also a unilevel attached.

And I dont know of any business where more than a few million people make the big money do you? Timing is critical for any product.

Only a few million people benefit ? Only a few million people benefit from a mcdonalds franchise or a KFC franchis,e or any other product for that matter. After all every product has a good time to get involved does it not?

Every product can only have so many retailers before the market becomes saturated and the competition heavy and the potential income from that product decreases.

This is no different than any other product. And when such time comes this system will simply clone itsself over and over again.

This game has the best odds of winning prizes than any other game of its kind around the world. If someone does not like the busienss idea they can just play the game where you have more chance to win prizes. But every player has the chance to earn more money by reffering others to the game. You get a product for your money, if you dont want to work it as a business then you can just play the game. I dont see a pyramid anywhere, its a lotto game, and legally licensed for by a Euopean Government.

pyramid scheme and people out of pocket ? A pyramid scheme is when you put money into a scheme that has no product with the promise of high returns, you are only promised a game with virtual lotto tickets and the chance to build a network of players, if you choose to build a network of players then you stand to earn money aswell as win prizes. You cant be out of pocket when you are purchasing a product "LOTTO TICKETS"

Contact details in South Africa ? This is an online gaming company licensed from Malta, there is no office in South Africa or the companies license would not be valid www.lga.org.mt .

This company and game is legal in South africa. Only public advertising of gambeling is not legal in south africa and we are not public domain we are online based. So this is legal in South Africa.

Thankyou for your input, everyone has a different view on MLM and network marketing.

**Marq** · 15-Jun-09, 12:07 PM

So there is such a thing now as a legally licensed by government pyramid scheme is there?

So you admit its just an illegal pyramid scheme set up to scam those stupid enough to buy into it.

2x2 Binary Matrix compensation plan with also a unilevel attached

A Matrix plan has many variations. For instance, 2x2, 3x8, 5x7. The first number represents how wide you go, the second number represents the depth you get paid on. Matrix comp plans are very simple. They are generally force filled from left to right, filling in each position before moving onto the next level.

So a bit of logic should tell one that if this is a matrix plan for two levels - how can you introduce (sorry attach) a unilevel. Then what is not said is that as each level opens up, a new 2X2 matrix is introduced.

So what sounds like some fancy terminology is in actual fact a load of BS describing a pyramid scheme.

This company and game is legal in South africa.

As we far as we can make out from your explanations, your company may be legal in Malta - it is not legal in South Africa. With regards to your 'system' I have no idea as to whether it is legal in Europe but does not sound legal in this country. You are also not on This list and being legal and showing us a malta website does not equal Europe and the rest of the world being legal.

Your 'product' is a lotto ticket that means nothing and has no value. It has tax implications that you have bypassed and as a result are flogging an illegal commodity. Should you try and tell us that there is some monetary value to your chips - how would you intend distributing any 'value'? Your 'winning' is dependent on the scammee's bring more people onto your 'system'. What a farce...and a whole bunch of maybe's.

I think this post is still in the wrong section and an insult to the mlm guys who believe they are genuine.- Should be in the scam alert forum.

**Dave A** · 15-Jun-09, 02:28 PM

Originally posted by Marq

I think this post is still in the wrong section and an insult to the mlm guys who believe they are genuine.- Should be in the scam alert forum.

I'm certainly keeping an eye on developments.

**totius54** · 15-Jun-09, 05:44 PM

This guy is brain dead , how can you compare with KFC it sells a product that is consumed and there is a long value chain ( grain, egg , chick , chicken ) all of which provide jobs.

There is no value adding here the scamsters thief's walk of with 20% of the money plus the 1000 of embedded numbers they have created for them selfs . They claim that it is audited weekly.

many years ago i was invited to a pilots party . the host was selling seats on a imaginary plane . (pilot , 2 copilots , 30 passengers ) as soon he sold all the seats the moneys went to the pilot and the plane was divided and the copilots was the pilots on the new planes and the process repeated it self.

I refused to be scammed and asked some very probing questions from the host. ( What stops me of starting my own party and myself starting of as the pilot. da da he could not answer me )

There was at least 30 stupid individuals whom bought tickets for R250.00 a seat , some bought 4 seats on the same plane.

How stupid can you get . The host made +- R30 000,00 he was the pilot on 2 planes that flew , on one he actually had to buy 3 seats himself.

**australasiabiz** · 17-Jun-09, 01:04 AM

Originally posted by Marq

So you admit its just an illegal pyramid scheme set up to scam those stupid enough to buy into it.

A Matrix plan has many variations. For instance, 2x2, 3x8, 5x7. The first number represents how wide you go, the second number represents the depth you get paid on. Matrix comp plans are very simple. They are generally force filled from left to right, filling in each position before moving onto the next level.

So a bit of logic should tell one that if this is a matrix plan for two levels - how can you introduce (sorry attach) a unilevel. Then what is not said is that as each level opens up, a new 2X2 matrix is introduced.

So what sounds like some fancy terminology is in actual fact a load of BS describing a pyramid scheme.

As we far as we can make out from your explanations, your company may be legal in Malta - it is not legal in South Africa. With regards to your 'system' I have no idea as to whether it is legal in Europe but does not sound legal in this country. You are also not on This list and being legal and showing us a malta website does not equal Europe and the rest of the world being legal.

Your 'product' is a lotto ticket that means nothing and has no value. It has tax implications that you have bypassed and as a result are flogging an illegal commodity. Should you try and tell us that there is some monetary value to your chips - how would you intend distributing any 'value'? Your 'winning' is dependent on the scammee's bring more people onto your 'system'. What a farce...and a whole bunch of maybe's.

I think this post is still in the wrong section and an insult to the mlm guys who believe they are genuine.- Should be in the scam alert forum.

Im an not here to listen to this rubbish. I dont even wish to go through all your different quotes to respond to them.

But I will say this I asked a question, I did not make a statment, how can this be illegal if it is licensed by a european government ? how can it be a scam if it is licensed by government ? Oh Sorry.... now i've got it...you are smarter than the maltese government ! Then why are you here on this forum ? go to malta... tell them you are smarter.... they will give you the top possition.

This is the mlm section of the forum why are you in here if you dont like mlm ? and call it a scam ? watch the video, call the government or whoever you like this is legal fact.

Please feel free to respond, you probably will as you seem like a person who must have last word, but I wont be responding to your messages further. if you dont liek water do you into it? no you dont .. so if you dont liek mlm why come in this section?. thanks for your input.

ps are you off your medication ? your a very angry person?

I will say again www.happi6.com european public licensed game www.luckystars.asia Asian legally licensed game. notice the legally licensed.. I think governments are smarter than you.. and if this is not legal in south africa then go and tell the authorities and have it closed down.

Its a lottery, you have one in south africa is that a scam too ? That is licensed and legal... it must be a scam. public domain advertising of gambling in South Africa is not allowed online is a different story.

Kind Regards Pearse

**australasiabiz** · 17-Jun-09, 01:08 AM

Originally posted by Dave A

I'm certainly keeping an eye on developments.

Thank you Please do, Please also feel free to contact the company directly.

Email
support@LuckyStars.asia

Tel
00 356 2385 6400

Fax
00 356 2144 2494

Postal address
Gallery House,
Valley Road
Birkirkara
Malta
BKR9021

Or you can also contact the LGA In Malta. I wont put up there site because I might get accused of putting up a fake... after all isnt that the way this thread is going.

google it lotteries and gaming authority of malta if you wish to speak to them.

They will confirm the company are legally licensed for global distribution.

Thanks for keeping an eye.

Regards Pearse

**australasiabiz** · 17-Jun-09, 01:18 AM

Originally posted by totius54

This guy is brain dead , how can you compare with KFC it sells a product that is consumed and there is a long value chain ( grain, egg , chick , chicken ) all of which provide jobs.

There is no value adding here the scamsters thief's walk of with 20% of the money plus the 1000 of embedded numbers they have created for them selfs . They claim that it is audited weekly.

many years ago i was invited to a pilots party . the host was selling seats on a imaginary plane . (pilot , 2 copilots , 30 passengers ) as soon he sold all the seats the moneys went to the pilot and the plane was divided and the copilots was the pilots on the new planes and the process repeated it self.

I refused to be scammed and asked some very probing questions from the host. ( What stops me of starting my own party and myself starting of as the pilot. da da he could not answer me )

There was at least 30 stupid individuals whom bought tickets for R250.00 a seat , some bought 4 seats on the same plane.

How stupid can you get . The host made +- R30 000,00 he was the pilot on 2 planes that flew , on one he actually had to buy 3 seats himself.

You dont even deserve a responce lol, im brain dead ? "1000 of embedded numbers" was as far as i read. did you watch the video. if they could fix these number they woudl not need to even run a company because the numbers are generated from the 6 european stock markets. So if they could predict those why run a company they woudl make a fortune on the markets. Another person jumping on the bashing waggon with no facts just thought, and uneducated ones at that.

How many lotto tickets are sold in south africa every week ? do you know the answer to that .. Probably not... but i do ! last week Total sales: R 25,490,983 now how is that not a product of value ? purchased by millions !

I am not here to defend this company.. I dont need too... I simply wanted to let people to know what was happening and that the opportunity was available. why have a mlm section.. you should rename it the bashing.

Out of who has commented, who has actually taken the time to watch the entire video ?

If this thread continues this way I wont be taking part or replying.. but... please... feel free to keep posting negative responses as that will keep my thread at the top of the new posts and my intro to the business is the first post, so you will be helping me out.

Total sales: R 25,490,983

**australasiabiz** · 17-Jun-09, 01:22 AM

Originally posted by Marq

So you admit its just an illegal pyramid scheme set up to scam those stupid enough to buy into it.

A Matrix plan has many variations. For instance, 2x2, 3x8, 5x7. The first number represents how wide you go, the second number represents the depth you get paid on. Matrix comp plans are very simple. They are generally force filled from left to right, filling in each position before moving onto the next level.

So a bit of logic should tell one that if this is a matrix plan for two levels - how can you introduce (sorry attach) a unilevel. Then what is not said is that as each level opens up, a new 2X2 matrix is introduced.

So what sounds like some fancy terminology is in actual fact a load of BS describing a pyramid scheme.

As we far as we can make out from your explanations, your company may be legal in Malta - it is not legal in South Africa. With regards to your 'system' I have no idea as to whether it is legal in Europe but does not sound legal in this country. You are also not on This list and being legal and showing us a malta website does not equal Europe and the rest of the world being legal.

Your 'product' is a lotto ticket that means nothing and has no value. It has tax implications that you have bypassed and as a result are flogging an illegal commodity. Should you try and tell us that there is some monetary value to your chips - how would you intend distributing any 'value'? Your 'winning' is dependent on the scammee's bring more people onto your 'system'. What a farce...and a whole bunch of maybe's.

I think this post is still in the wrong section and an insult to the mlm guys who believe they are genuine.- Should be in the scam alert forum.

Sorry I forgot to ask. can you send me a link please to a document that says this is not legal in South
Africa please. I would actually like to see it and pass it on to the company.. After checking with the legal team they did not come back with that, so i think if you can pass it to me, I will pass it to them, thanks in advance

**Dave A** · 17-Jun-09, 06:26 AM

Folks, my online time is pretty limited over the next few days as I'm travelling. So I'm not in a position to follow up on this closely at the moment.

Can I appeal to you all to keep it tidy and stick to the points. And hopefully we'll get to the bottom of exactly where this deal stands.

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