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Just got a call from a company called Maycom Trading in Cape Town. They have exactly the same Modus Operandi. Beware!
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Another company (possibly the same crowd of people) running a similar scam, but this time using "super concentrated" cleaning products.
I just got a phone call from their very pushy sales lady. I thought I recognised her voice and get suspicious.
When I googled their name I started seeing the same type of complaints....
Their name is Concentrated Solutions....
They claim their product is superior, and they send you a sample to test.
A few days later they send you a 25 Liter drum and an invoice, and then begin to pester you for payment.
Exactly the same modus operandi as the other scam comapnies who used to send you the shoddy laser cartridges.
These are the names of some of their other scam companies...
Stratus Office Consumables - http://www.hellopeter.com/search_res...search=stratus
Dower Business Systems - http://mybroadband.co.za/vb/showthre...-might-be-back!
Laser Ink Direct - http://www.hellopeter.com/search_res...ser+ink+direct
Haltrex Systems - http://www.sascams.co.za/index.php?topic=83.0
Newtek or nutec or nu-tech (no website yet)
C & N Imaging Systems (no website yet)
Maycom Trading
The names throw around are Sean, Lerato, etc.
A search on the person who registered the website gives the following info...
2i. invoiceaddress : P.O. Box 3450, Durbanville, 7551
2j. registrantphone : +27.860555133
2k. registrantfax : +27.118071526
2l. registrantemail : paul@marketpro.co.za
2n. vat : 4630185538
3b. cname :
3c. cnamesub1 :
3d. cnamesub2 :
3e. creationdate : 2011/09/08 14:24:52
4a. admin : Paul Jeffries
4b. admintitle : Mr
4c. admincompany : Concentrated Solutions
4d. adminpostaladdr : PO Box 652005, , 2010
4e. adminphone : +27.860555133
4f. adminfax : +27.118071526
4g. adminemail : paul@marketpro.co.za
Paul Jeffries is one of the same two guys (along with Barnaby Lee) who were investigated by Carte Blanche for the Laser Ink Direct Scam... See here...
So, bottom line... stay away from Concentrated Solutions!
Here are the Hello Peter complaints...
We have had the same problem as other consumers of Market Pro Traders T/A Lazer Link. We were approached by telephone by Concentrated Solutions to purchase chemicals which would clean our engine parts. We asked them to bring us a small amount to try. A few days later we received an invoice for 25lt and again a few days later received the product even though on receiving the invoice we phoned to say we did not want this product until we had tried a small quantity. This product is absolute rubbish (we suspect it is plain water with some colouring) and cannot even clean a dirty dinner plate. They refuse to accept a return and have sent a statement.
We refused to pay. They refuse to give an address, which is not on the statement or invoice, and their FAX number does not exist.My workshop manager received a call from Sean in November concerning de greases and soap and the sales person said that they would deliver some of the products for a trial. My manager was then contacted by Sean who wanted to confirm the order. My manager told Sean that the order had been placed upon him. Sean chose to ignore this statement and delivered the goods anyway. The goods were delivered in December and a 60 day account was automatically given without a credit application even being filled out. On closer inspection of the invoice we found that the two 25 liter "samples" were more than double the price of our current suppliers. My manager phoned the sales person - which he had never met - and told the person that he did not want the product. The sales person, Abraham, said that delivery charges had already been paid. My manager offered to pay for the delivery charges and Abraham refused to accept the return of the products. I am now being contacted by Lerato demanding payment. I have offered to return the unopened products to them but they will not give me an address. They have forwarded me a recording of the order but never were we told the conversation was recordeI was contacted by Concentrated Solutions with a long story about how they are moving to new premises, and they are selling stock before they moved. I made it clear that I did not want any of their product because I still had half a 25L. I also explained that we are putting workers on short time and that I will be in trouble for purchasing their product, after I still have some left.
Nevertheless, Sean phones a week later and says how he apologises that I never received my voucher and that it will be couriered to me. The very next day he phones again and confirms the delivery and rambles something about our conversation the previous day, where I was let to believe this conversation is still about the voucher.
A couple of days later a 25L chemical is delivered. When I told the courier to take it back, he said he cannot, he only does deliveries.
I have sent Concentrated Solutions a mail about my disgust and received feedback, stating there is a recording of me accepting this delivery. In the recording you can clearly hear how Sean reduced the level of his voice to make sure you cannot hear what he said about the chemical or price.
DO NOT DO BUSINESS WITH THIS COMPANY!!!!!Comment
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hi i have getting calls from these people i only took once from them they idiots are killing me help to make it stop or catch these bloody dum suckersComment
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Not good for the grass I assume?
BOVER Technologies - computer sales and TeamViewer support
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]Not good for anything really... And especially effective on the driveway infront of the main gate at big companies, at 16h00 on a Friday. You only need about six tons. Good for getting paid by a sly client too. In cash. And for poo-removal in addition to what you're owed.twitter: @DarkAngelYaya - Blogger: The Common Garden Variety Goddess - darkangelcarina@gmail.com~Anything or anyone who does not bring you alive, is too small for you~ Carina
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The soap company is also Haltrex.
That is how they conned us a couple of years ago.
Luckily we don't have anything to do with them any more.
Another company (possibly the same crowd of people) running a similar scam, but this time using "super concentrated" cleaning products.
I just got a phone call from their very pushy sales lady. I thought I recognised her voice and get suspicious.
When I googled their name I started seeing the same type of complaints....
Their name is Concentrated Solutions....
They claim their product is superior, and they send you a sample to test.
A few days later they send you a 25 Liter drum and an invoice, and then begin to pester you for payment.
Exactly the same modus operandi as the other scam comapnies who used to send you the shoddy laser cartridges.
These are the names of some of their other scam companies...
Stratus Office Consumables - http://www.hellopeter.com/search_res...search=stratus
Dower Business Systems - http://mybroadband.co.za/vb/showthre...-might-be-back!
Laser Ink Direct - http://www.hellopeter.com/search_res...ser+ink+direct
Haltrex Systems - http://www.sascams.co.za/index.php?topic=83.0
Newtek or nutec or nu-tech (no website yet)
C & N Imaging Systems (no website yet)
Maycom Trading
The names throw around are Sean, Lerato, etc.
A search on the person who registered the website gives the following info...
2i. invoiceaddress : P.O. Box 3450, Durbanville, 7551
2j. registrantphone : +27.860555133
2k. registrantfax : +27.118071526
2l. registrantemail : paul@marketpro.co.za
2n. vat : 4630185538
3b. cname :
3c. cnamesub1 :
3d. cnamesub2 :
3e. creationdate : 2011/09/08 14:24:52
4a. admin : Paul Jeffries
4b. admintitle : Mr
4c. admincompany : Concentrated Solutions
4d. adminpostaladdr : PO Box 652005, , 2010
4e. adminphone : +27.860555133
4f. adminfax : +27.118071526
4g. adminemail : paul@marketpro.co.za
Paul Jeffries is one of the same two guys (along with Barnaby Lee) who were investigated by Carte Blanche for the Laser Ink Direct Scam... See here...
So, bottom line... stay away from Concentrated Solutions!
Here are the Hello Peter complaints...
http://www.hellopeter.com/concentrat...ractice-747347Comment
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Participation is voluntary.
Alcocks Electrical Services | Alcocks Pest Control & Entomological Services | Alcocks Hygiene ServicesComment
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Darkangelyaya very quiet....
BOVER Technologies - computer sales and TeamViewer support
Elmine Botha Freelance Photographer - Photographer/ VideographerComment
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Participation is voluntary.
Alcocks Electrical Services | Alcocks Pest Control & Entomological Services | Alcocks Hygiene ServicesComment
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Dave, yes I also got a call from them in the last two weeks.
Same name... Viatek.
But this was a new salesperson.Comment
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Just got another call from Viatek a few minutes ago.
Male voice, slight accent.
Very pushy.
I old him we only use original Samsung Cartridges, he sneered and said his are superior.Comment
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Exact same Modus Operandi....
1) Cold Calling
2) You participated in a Survey a year ago
3) We would like to give you a gift/voucher/reward/Free Cartridge.
4) All our Toner cartridges last longer and are superior.
I told the woman that I only buy genuine cartridges from Samsung, and she said "yes, they do supply those."
That is a flat out lie though as this guy's experience will show you....
http://www.iol.co.za/the-star/the-ri...tPageLayout.ot
This is what their cartridges actually look like...The right move after a wrong cartridge
September 12 2011 at 09:00am
By Wendy Knowler
I recently reported on the case of Sakkie van Rensburg of Cape Town, who ordered and paid for a R1 600 printer cartridge from direct marketer CBS Print Consumables of Benmore, Johannesburg – but he was sent the wrong cartridge. He send it back at his expense, and was sent another one, also incompatible with his machine. So he sent that one back, too. He contacted me when the CBS Print Consumables refused to refund him.
The Consumer Protection Act gives buyers the right to return goods which don’t match the order, regardless of whether it was a direct marketing deal or not, and the right to cancel any direct marketing deal, even if there is nothing wrong with the goods or the deal, within five business days of the receipt of the goods.
Company director Krish Naicker said a batch of incorrectly labelled cartridges was to blame.
I pointed out that the act compels direct marketers to refund customers within 15 days, if the customer excercises their right to cancel the deal within five business days of receiving the goods.
Naicker undertook to resolve the matter “amicably” and has since contacted Van Rensburg and agreed to exchange the cartridges he’d insisted on being refunded for. “Furthermore, I offered to supply him with one additional toner as compensation for his unpleasant experience with my company,” Naicker said.
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And this is the Hello Peter complaint page for this company.... (22 Negative in the last year)
This is their details....
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Same situation here, started last year September; I told them from the start that my business does hardly any of our own printing, but because the sales lady sounded sweet, I'll buy from them once (the price quoted was pretty cheap anyway). Two months later the next phone call came, claiming that she had messed up with my first order, but not to worry they're going to rectify it; I told them that I didn't care about the mix up and to just leave it as it is, she refused and it turned into a 25 minute debate. Several times I requested that I just want to cancel any orders that I had apparently ordered, but every time she said there would be a huge cancellation fee, every time I asked her how much, she refused to give an answer. Eventually I again let her twist my arm, and asked how much the cartridges will be, she said, and this is a direct quote "I don't know, probably about 3 of 4 hundred". When it arrived, about 3 weeks later, the invoice was for almost R2000; I tried calling them immediately, but got a phone message that they'll be closed until 19 January (about a month and a half, and of course my return date would expire in that time), 19 January I called them again, but they were still closed, 20 January, same...eventually I reached someone (Victor), explaining the situation to him, eventually he agreed that I could exchange it for cheaper cartridges of R800 (still double what I was quoted), this I paid. A few months later, another phone call, claiming that my 3rd order was on its way, this time I lost it completely, and it turned into a fun game of them sending it, me returning it, them sending it again etc. eventually I was contacted by Victor again, and was informed that he is shocked at my poor business ethics, this turned into a 40 minute debate, I hang up the phone, Victor calls back, I hang up the phone, Victor calls back. Eventually I let Victor twist my arm again, and more cartridges were sent (this time accompanied by a R300 extra courier cost, even though they just used normal snail mail). Victor had however promised to close the account after that payment is received, another payment which I made, for cartridges I can't use. Which brings us to today and Victor calling me again for my 4th order, the game was continued, of me hanging up the phone and him calling back, me hanging up the phone and him calling back. Several times I offered that they simply get a lawyer and sue me, Victor claims it's not worth anyone's time. I requested to hear the phone recordings from our last conversation, where Victor had apparently informed me of this one last order, but of course they had apparently already deleted it. I have no idea what to do anymore, any advise?
Eventually I tried calling them, but got a recorded message saying that they'll be closedComment
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Whoa man! They really took you for a ride! I hope you have reported this to as many authorities as possible!Comment
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