Recruitment Agencies

[MGM]

I find it difficult to trust some of the recruitment agencies advertising positions on the web. My experience lead me to believe that people's personal information is collected and then used for various illegal activities. Has anybody got insight into happenings like this?

[sdukzen]

Some will ask you to fax all your documents to them e.g. your qualifications, employment letters, your recent photo and a detailed cv. When you do your research that agency you find they have no website no landline number.

[Just Gone]

I suppose there is a possibility that this might happen - My wife has a recruitment agency and I know that she runs it strictly by the book - your details are totally confidential - the only time some of your details are released is when they refer you to a client for an interview ! I must say this is the first time I have heard mention of this happening.

[msmoorad]

I suppose there is a possibility that this might happen - My wife has a recruitment agency and I know that she runs it strictly by the book - your details are totally confidential - the only time some of your details are released is when they refer you to a client for an interview ! I must say this is the first time I have heard mention of this happening.

if you dont mind me asking, approx how many percent of a persons wages/salary is taken by the recruitment agency?
from what i know, some agencies are paid a fee upfront when they find someone for a senior position but with junior positions, they deduct a certain amount from your earnings monthly
this is deducted before you are paid so people sometimes dont know exactly how much has been taken by the agency.

[Just Gone]

nothing is deducted from the employee - the company pays the recruitment agency a once off percentage of the persons salary.

[Dave A]

the company pays the recruitment agency a once off percentage of the persons salary.

In my experience, about 10% of the annual salary for a permanent placement (probably negotiable to some extent).

Temps are a slightly different ballgame.

[tec0]

I suppose there is a possibility that this might happen - My wife has a recruitment agency and I know that she runs it strictly by the book - your details are totally confidential - the only time some of your details are released is when they refer you to a client for an interview ! I must say this is the first time I have heard mention of this happening.

Actually I did mention it before…

Thread: Compiling a Proper CV Post number 8 Date: 24-Feb-12 Time: 08:06

Here is my problem with CV's…

As we all know there are active scamming systems out there that will ask you to forward your CV to a free fax number that anyone can setup in a few simple clicks.

So what is on your CV that they can use?

Well in a word "EVERYTHING"

Your CV has a copy of your ID number and all your personal details that can be easily abused for identity theft and they can even use your info to commit fraud.

So are recruitment agencies any better?

Well sadly there are scammers that have the recruitment agency setup and will use it to accumulate CV's' for whatever reason they have in mind. Thus simply handing out your CV is not a good practice.

Yes there are recruitment agencies that will be able to supply you with a list of previous customers that you may contact and authenticate both their success rate and if they are legit. If the agency refuses you any contact info or a list or references start to question their motives. Remember you have no reason to trust anyone with your info.

It is easy for an individual to be bullied into submitting a full CV as your application will be turned down otherwise so keep a record and always check up on the company first. If something happens like you get a phone call and you realise you are the victim of identity theft you can immediately go back to your records and this will help investigations.

So please be careful, don't trust anyone it is really important to keep your info safe.

[Just Gone]

Well in that case you have to find a recruitment agency that you trust and give them your details, because if you dont or refuse to give them your details, your cv will land up in the bin, because with out a simple id no they cannot refer you, because they cant even do a basic check on you ! It is really your choice - the recruitment agency is also there to help you, and you dont have to use them - you can go it alone which might be more difficult at the end of the day.

[tec0]

Well in that case you have to find a recruitment agency that you trust and give them your details, because if you dont or refuse to give them your details, your cv will land up in the bin, because with out a simple id no they cannot refer you, because they cant even do a basic check on you ! It is really your choice - the recruitment agency is also there to help you, and you dont have to use them - you can go it alone which might be more difficult at the end of the day.

I always wondered about this. Do recruitment Agencies help facilitate job seeking? Or does it make it more difficult? In the old days recruitment Agencies didn’t exist and people where able to find good jobs then? What changed?

Fact is companies became too professional and millions of people are suffering for it. Whatever happened to just go the company hand in your CV to them?

All of us have a right to life but according to today' standards no one has… Everything is paperwork first… Fact is these systems regulate jobs and the access of jobs to the public. Also no one is allowed to make mistakes anymore. In short you live in a perfection that is not humanly sustainable.

I have given up a long time ago now. It doesn’t matter anymore I have what I have if it gets taken I will put of a fight and die honourably… In short you and the generations before you have made it impossible for us to have any kind of life. So life stopped having meaning. Think about that….

[Dave A]

Recruitement/employment agencies have been around for absolute ages. They're just more in demand than before because (thanks to our LRA) you can't take chances when it comes to hiring nowadays.

[tec0]

I really don’t want to be negative all the time. Kevinb knows the other side of the coin better than I do. He knows the benefits and understands how his side of the world works. But on the other side of the coin we have become slaves. Our opportunities are being stripped away because of standards and rules regulations and the like. On this side of the coin there is no point to life any more.

Systems like these acts as wall against "proofing yourself" There are no more open doors… Only death by drugs, suicide and murder. Things will not get better as this wall becomes ever bigger. So in that regard it is the end there is just nothing left.

[Just Gone]

tec I am surprised you are asking a question like this, being as intelligent as you are. In todays world where the laws have made it very difficult to fire someone etc etc etc ........ companies now make sure that when they hire they get the right person therefore they go thro recruitment agencies where they can check credentials, itc, crim checks, qualifications international and local etc etc ..... I am sure I do not have to go on for you - you do understand dont you ?

[Just Gone]

On this side of the coin there is no point to life any more.

Systems like these acts as wall against "proofing yourself" There are no more open doors… Only death by drugs, suicide and murder. Things will not get better as this wall becomes ever bigger. So in that regard it is the end there is just nothing left.

Ummmmm a person has to stand up for themselves and make sure that the above does not happen ............ its not the Recruitment agency's fault - it is the individuals fault if he does not want to make a go of life !!!!

[tec0]

Again I am pointing out the fact that everything needs to be 100% all the time. No human is perfect but the requirements for perfection is so high… Case and point someone has a criminal record for something stupid that happened a lifetime ago that person's life is now over regardless of how they improved.

If you are with the wrong educator let's say you trained with company A but they wanted company B then that person lost their investment in company A and the training is worth zero… Again there life is over because there is no money to rectify the mistake as you know training is expensive.

In the end it only takes 1 mistake and it is game over… I don’t think it is right but it is the reality of the situation.

It is not about giving up or giving life ago anymore… It is about access to a life….

That access is so restricted that the possibility no longer exists for many South Africans.

[Just Gone]

Unfortunately tec that is the choices we make in life ...... yes a crim record is there for life and in fact a charge against your name is also there for life ..... not sure if you knew that ? But on the flip side it is not all gloom ....... obviously a company is not going to hire you doing accounts if you committed fraud in your life, but I have found that smaller lesser things that happened a while ago, companies are now willing to forgive and forget if it happened say 10 years ago and you have kept your record clean since then.