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  • Hannes Botha
    Full Member

    • Aug 2014
    • 81

    #1

    [Question] What's in a name?

    Hi all, a lot of valuable knowledge on this site.

    I placed this under this topic as I consider branding and marketing to go hand in hand...

    I am going to make this a little sketchy as to not infringe on forum rules:

    45 years ago my uncle started a tyre business (Let's call it Kruger & Sons) in a small suburb in Capetown, bordering on the Winelands, Industrial areas as well as residential (Let's call it Bordertown). The business changed hands in about 2001 and in 2010 My dad, my brother and I bought it back. It has changed from one franchise to another over the years (before we owned it) and we are currently with one of the top rated franchises (Let's call it Vital tyres) in the industry. We have always been trading under the name my uncle started the business with using the franchise name in conjunction, for example: "Vital tyres, Kruger & sons" This drew in some nostalgia from our older and more loyal customers"

    Lately we have been receiving pressure from our franchisor to trade under the name "Vital tyres, Bordertown" Our argument has been that "Kruger & sons" has been around long before "Vital tyres"....but lately I have given it some thought.

    Keeping in mind that we are not on the main road...Where branding is concerned (vehicles, bumper stickers, lightboxes etc) if we brand our vehicle as "Vital tyres, Kruger & sons" nobody will know we are in "Bordertown" Alternatively, if we trade under the name "Vital tyres, Bordertown" people who see it will hopefully remember there is a "Vital tyres" in "Bordertown" next time the need tyres.

    What is your thinking on this Gents?
  • pmbguy
    Platinum Member

    • Apr 2013
    • 2095

    #2
    My sentiments argue for "Kruger & Sons" and I would not have it changed on a whim of another party.

    However, if the new name is really as snappy and logical and excellent as "Vital" and if the name change helps secure the survival of the business then changing it is fully justifiable and the correct course to take. Also, loyal clients will never drop you just because your name changed.


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    • Mike C
      Diamond Member

      • Apr 2012
      • 2891

      #3
      For new customers I suppose that the "Bordertown" name would work best. If I needed tyres and I was down your way, I would google Vital Tyres and look for the one closest to me.
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      • KCS
        Full Member
        • Sep 2014
        • 25

        #4
        I would go with both, but just change it around a bit to please the franchisor, who's point I also get.

        For example, Kruger & Sons in small letters at the top, followed by the logo in large letters "Vital Tyres Bordertown" You can even add Est. 1970 somewhere at the bottom, just to finish it off.
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        • Dave A
          Site Caretaker

          • May 2006
          • 22806

          #5
          Originally posted by Hannes Botha
          Lately we have been receiving pressure from our franchisor to trade under the name "Vital tyres, Bordertown" Our argument has been that "Kruger & sons" has been around long before "Vital tyres"....but lately I have given it some thought.
          The cynic in me suggests the franchisor is seeking to disenfranchise you of any goodwill that may reside in the name of Kruger & sons.
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          • Hannes Botha
            Full Member

            • Aug 2014
            • 81

            #6
            That is our conundrum. Goodwill in existing name vs "Vital tyres" as n brand, which is the top franchise as voted by consumers to answer pmbguy's as to the snappyness ;-)

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            • Hannes Botha
              Full Member

              • Aug 2014
              • 81

              #7
              Originally posted by Hannes Botha
              That is our conundrum. Goodwill in existing name vs "Vital tyres" as n brand, which is the top franchise as voted by consumers to answer pmbguy's as to the snappyness ;-)
              Oh sorry, and also trading under the "Vital tyres Border town" banner will be easier to find on the "Vital tyres" national website. But with our current name, customer would have to read every address....

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              • wynn
                Diamond Member

                • Oct 2006
                • 3338

                #8
                "Vital Tyres, Bordertown, Kruger and Sons" would seem to cover it all.
                In the phone book you will appear under 'K' as 'Kruger & Sons' as well under 'V' as Vital Tyres.
                On the Vital Tyres website you will appear as 'Vital Tyres Bordertown'?

                Then five years later if you change franchises again you will be 'Better Tyres, Bordertown, Kruger and Sons'
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                • KCS
                  Full Member
                  • Sep 2014
                  • 25

                  #9
                  That's exactly what my local tyre shop did. I have supported Jody's Tyres for many years. Initially they were just Jody's Tyres, but have also since had several franchise agreements. The latest was Hi-Q, but I think they have changed again to Best Drive, or something like that.

                  They still use Jody's Tyres on their logo. See attached screen shot.

                  Cheers

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                  • Hannes Botha
                    Full Member

                    • Aug 2014
                    • 81

                    #10
                    But is their location also on their logo? For example, if somebody moved into that area and sees a Hi-Q bakkie driving around there would they realise "oh there's a Hi Q in Cresta (?)" The real question is...what weighs heavier, goodwill or "Vital tyres" as a Brand name. Maybe "Kruger & sons, trading as Vital tyres Bordertown".....but you won't be able to put that on ALL your advertisements...

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                    • Dave A
                      Site Caretaker

                      • May 2006
                      • 22806

                      #11
                      Originally posted by Hannes Botha
                      Maybe "Kruger & sons, trading as Vital tyres Bordertown"
                      That's the way to go.
                      Originally posted by Hannes Botha
                      ....but you won't be able to put that on ALL your advertisements...
                      Maybe not all, but as long as the size is appropriate to where it appears, you could certainly cover a lot of ground.
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                      • Houses4Rent
                        Gold Member

                        • Mar 2014
                        • 803

                        #12
                        I changed the name of my business once and carried on as usual. Nobody seemed be interested what I call myself as long the same good service and products comes out of it.
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                        • Hannes Botha
                          Full Member

                          • Aug 2014
                          • 81

                          #13
                          Thanks for all the info guys.

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