COFFEE BREAKS

[tec0]

I can just imagine some offices .............. smokers smoking in the same room as non smokers ......... then getting the odd Friday off for just DOING THEIR JOB ................. !! ...... No wonder this world is so f**ked up !!

I don't agree with smoke brakes at all. Allow smokers to smoke at their desks. In a well air-conditioned room second hand smoke will be very little and actually not that bad for people as once thought.

Here is one of the pages that I had a look at link

As for the coffee, an urn is a good start

I just really need to ask this Kevinb where in that post did I say smokers and none smokers must be in the same place? I said in a well air-conditioned room the second hand smoke would be very little.

So is putting them in the same room my idea or ?

enjoy your day

[Just Gone]

[Originally Posted by tec0

I don't agree with smoke brakes at all. Allow smokers to smoke at their desks. In a well air-conditioned room second hand smoke will be very little and actually not that bad for people as once thought. ]

You said "second hand smoke will be very little and actually not that bad for people" ................ Duh ....that means smokers will be around PEOPLE !!!................ Oh and "second hand smoke" means exactly that ......... second hand smoke for PEOPLE perhaps NOT smoking !!!!!!

[adrianh]

Here is even a better idea - have them state during the interview whether they smoke - if they do then simply don't hire them!

Allocate a special room for the ones that do smoke. The room doesn't need paint or carpets or chairs or such luxuries, they can stand. Smoking is supposed to calm the nerves, well, so does pacing round and round. One could also play company policy tapes loud so that they get an education while they smoke. Even better would be to place a treadmill in the room so that they feel guilty. One could also have posters of people with shiny white teeth kissing pretty girls and on the opposite wall posters of people dying from lung cancer.

If you wanna smoke in my company, then you'll just have to put up with my odd decor tastes...If you don't like it then you could simply stop smoking and do yourself and the entire world a favour.

[tec0]

Here is even a better idea - have them state during the interview whether they smoke - if they do then simply don't hire them!

Allocate a special room for the ones that do smoke. The room doesn't need paint or carpets or chairs or such luxuries, they can stand. Smoking is supposed to calm the nerves, well, so does pacing round and round. One could also play company policy tapes loud so that they get an education while they smoke. Even better would be to place a treadmill in the room so that they feel guilty. One could also have posters of people with shiny white teeth kissing pretty girls and on the opposite wall posters of people dying from lung cancer.

If you wanna smoke in my company, then you'll just have to put up with my odd decor tastes...If you don't like it then you could simply stop smoking and do yourself and the entire world a favour.

Well that is your opinion wonder how a none smoker would feel if he/she is in a company were the majority including the boss is a smoker and you apply this type of discrimination to that person?

[tec0]

[Originally Posted by tec0

I don't agree with smoke brakes at all. Allow smokers to smoke at their desks. In a well air-conditioned room second hand smoke will be very little and actually not that bad for people as once thought. ]

You said "second hand smoke will be very little and actually not that bad for people" ................ Duh ....that means smokers will be around PEOPLE !!!................ Oh and "second hand smoke" means exactly that ......... second hand smoke for PEOPLE perhaps NOT smoking !!!!!!

Right the first person to be victim to second hand smoke would be the smoker sitting next to another smoker. After all that is the point to purifying the air is to eliminate as much impurities as possible. I thought that was kind of obvious.

Also the other benefit is something known by most companies, keeping the air oxygenated keeps the brain more alert and active. So the none smoker in a none smoking aria can also benefit. And it is nice in summer to have a cool place to work.

The idea behind this train of thought was similar to what they do in casinos. If possible and willing one can dedicate a small enough "work space" to the smoking staff and let them get on with their work without having them run out once every hour or so. That is if you wish to facilitate them clearly it comes down to the owner's own choices. I just thought it would speed things up.

So it was never my words to put smokers and none smokers in the same room

I would be more worried about air pollution anyway But that is just my opinion

[Just Gone]

Its a fact of life ........ some companies will not hire smokers or gay people or white people or black people or people that live too far away or fat people or too skinny people or ugly people !!! And yes I know about this because my wife owns a recruitment agency, so even tho it is unconstitutional and all the rest that you will now try to say ................ it happens ............

And as a matter of interest ....... when they give her a spec to find someone for them 90% of them say they do not want smokers because they are the people that work the least and waste the most time ! So you can want as many "rooms" as you would like to go and waste time smoking - it will never happen in my company - I pay you to work ! You can relax at home, not in my time. Thats why you have a tv at home and a couch where you can stink out your own house with your smoking.

[tec0]

I pay you to work ! You can relax at home, not in my time. Thats why you have a tv at home and a couch where you can stink out your own house with your smoking.

Well funny enough I agree with you people do discriminate. It is a sad but true practice.

As you said it is unconstitutional. I just sincerely hope that someone doesn’t come around with a court-order one-day and ask that the criteria be released of one of the companies that may have done something like that.

If there criteria had some form of discrimination then they may find themselves in trouble.

[Just Gone]

They will never get into trouble ............ when you want to hire someone you first of all fill in a letter of agreement with the consulting company and then chat with them face to face and what you say across the table expands your criteria . And I think that if you are for example a modelling agency or a make up company you do not want an ugly person representing you ! Yes that is another whole new debate, but really if you want for example a rep yo really dont want a moerva big oke that is sluggish and cant move around quick enough so you tell them more or less what to look for and this is not discrimination.

[adrianh]

There will not be a majority of smokers in my company, not even a minority - zip, zero. So I don't have to build a special playroom for them filled with my macabre pictures of cancer patients, necrotic lungs and all sorts of other artistic impressions of the effect that long term Nicotine exposure has on the human body.

tec0 - reality check. I am not going to hire a young gay male to serve the bikers at the bar or a pretty young girl to serve lunch to the dock workers. I will also not hire a toothless beggar to be my receptionist at the hairdresser...by the same token, smokers are inappropriate for my work environment ("we work with very sensitive spanners and hammers which turn toxic when exposed to Nicotine,you know...take me to court and prove me wrong if you have the time to waste") BTW: I also don't hire aholes, wise-asses or know-it-all dingbats, shouldn't this be considered as dicriminatory against 90% of the population?

I will hire who I choose and if the person feels discriminated against bcause I deem them to be inappropriate for the working conditions....well TOUGH $H!T

[Just Gone]

ja please ....... reality check ........... this is the real world out there !!!! Same as I have a right not to hire someone with a criminal record or itc record !!!

[tec0]

I find this to be very educational actually, gives me an Idea who will have work and who will not have work because of X and Y reason.

[Just Gone]

I find this to be very educational actually, gives me an Idea who will have work and who will not have work because of X and Y reason.

Great ....... we agree on that ............ and also the way you look/dress is a big factor ! How old are you.......... as a matter of interest ? My guess is 19.

[tec0]

Well I guess you will never know

And actually it brings up question does age-seniority count? If let's say the boss is age 40 and his workers are age 50 do they have seniority over the boss due to age? Do the elder person get longer coffee breaks then younger employees?

If you do a job for a younger Client does he/she get a lower level of service?

[Phil Cooper]

You may NOT allow smokers to smoke at their desks - illegal!

And, bluntly, as a non-smoker I don't want ANY second hand smoke.

[Justloadit]

Whilst I pay the wages, I will hire who ever I wish, whether its constitutional or not, I don't give a rats a$$.

This is the problem in RSA, the entitlement story again.
People, wake up, smell the coffee, so I don't like you or you or you, tough live with it, not everyone is going to like you or you or you, not every one is going to like me either, it's just the way of the world.

Its like me coming over to your house and telling you what to do, because its constitutional? Is that going to happen? You bet not.