About job creation.

[Dave A]

i know

Not really. You touch on many of the legislation issues that are indirectly contributing to unemployment and their combined effect is certainly showing.

[adrianh]

Yes, and David Icke says that it is all because the reptiles that run the Babylonian Brotherhood who have been taking over the world since their landing here on earth. (The Biggest Secret - by By David Icke)

[mother]

... the reptiles...

Hehehehe... The return of "V"...and next time I see a politician my eyes will be fixed on their skin, hoping to see a scratch that will reveal those green scales!

[adrianh]

...then of course we mustn't forget that the reptiles are the driving force behind the secret agenda of the Church Of The Flying Spaghetti Monster
...or maybe it's not the reptiles,
anyway,
some or other dark sinister third force is behind Pastafaria and the promotion of saucy noodley appendages!

[mother]

Adrian, your a nutcase!

[gombault]

We have all these skills training programs some via existing businesses and some by collages giving useless training. All those people at some stage must find a means of supporting themselves from the training they did. If they cant find employment their only other option would be self-employment. For them to be successful in selling themselves or their products they would require customers. What our system does is will give everyone the same opportunity to make a living from their skills. Anyone that wants something would love our system the cost to them finding a service or product would only be one e- mail and they wont even need to know the names of the businesses that’s selling those products. This system would put a price other than a scrap value on most things. The public can see requests from others and also give a price on what’s required they can see what’s in demand and act accordingly. This system will be a free market research tool.

We spent all this time developing this system that businesses hate. We could not get it of the ground without the help of the business sector.
A new system that’s based on ours is something like HIPPO that’s giving insurance quotes. I don’t know if any of those insurance companies like that system as their prices are constantly under pressure. Some would say it’s a good thing some would say its not.
What do you think?

[adrianh]

So you are a broker!

How much does it cost to join?
How much does it cost to use?

What does it have to do with poverty alleviation?

[gombault]

I believe in a revised socialist world. Capitalism is the fuels for mans greed, greed’s part of mans DNA. Corruption and crime with the help of Capitalism became an easy way for man to achieve his greed. The capitalists that are telling you their system is like living a dream is loosing the battle against crime and corruption.
Capitalism is based on growth without growth it can’t exist. The banks, insurance companies, pension schemes need growth otherwise they cant exist. They need to chop down the trees for the next shopping maul the next residential area or town in order to pay their investors. And for that they need more people to occupy those mauls and towns. In the next 50 years the world human population will double, the capitalist will defend that as a human right because it’s the only way that their system can continue. But in the end their system will destroy them after they destroyed everything else.

And I do have a good business

[mother]

How much does it cost to join?
How much does it cost to use?

What does it have to do with poverty alleviation?

@gombault: I think most of us are suspicious of this system you are propagating, because you remain vague. A couple of members have asked you specific questions, which you sort of replied to by using a lot of emotionally charged words, apparently to avoid simple concrete facts. You will not find support for your "system", unless you PROVE it worthy, and so far you have not really explained it properly.

[Blurock]

gombault raises a lot of "issues" but does not provide a solution. By being negative and aggrieved you will never get out of the downward spiral. I have learned that the world does not owe me anything. The boss will not give me that raise because I am a nice guy. People will not buy from me because they can see me struggling to make ends meet. I will not win the lotto because I deserved it, etc etc.

I have to earn my keep and earn respect. Conspiracy theories does not pay the rent.

You mention that you have a successful business. I am sure that you are proud of your business achievements. Build on the positives and not on these side issues that pulls you down into depression and despair.

[tec0]

And so, it ends. I deleted so many pages lately because I cannot put into words what I feel. So I came to the conclusion, those who wants to make a joke of everything and continue to provoke anger and spew ridicule… Please do.

After all it is your world we just live in it. I wanted to say more perhaps put a few names to shame. But I will not. I had web-links planned that would point to some of the things I stated in my previous posts “news reports and the like” but there would have been no point to it really.

Enjoy the forum.

Good day.

[adrianh]

Ag ou broer, we all got the right to hold different views on things, I personally like the Church of the Flying Spaghetti Monster. Look it up, it is really good and it has a lot to say about Pastafaria. David Icke did write all that stuff about the reptiles and brotherhood and what not in his book. You can actually download the book or I can email it to you.

I honestly couldn't care less about the great conspiracies and the terrible impending doom. If the world economy collapses and we all die well then so be it. I spend my entire day trying to stay sane and to stay alive - that is already hard enough for me - I am way too forgetful to figure out big conspiracies. I am just too thankful to be around another day to get to bothered about all that stuff. Anyway, when it comes to politics, economics, religion and a multitude of other topics we all hold our own pet theories that may or may not make sense to others.

You musn't take the crap I speak personally, speaking crap comes naturally to me and I can do so all day long. If I could be as effective at financial management as I am at speaking crap I would have been very rich very long ago. Feel free to express your views but you must remember that in an open public forum people are liable to pull your chain just for the hell of it.

[Dave A]

What our system does is will give everyone the same opportunity to make a living from their skills. Anyone that wants something would love our system the cost to them finding a service or product would only be one e- mail and they wont even need to know the names of the businesses that’s selling those products.

That's probably a big part of the problem getting business-side buy-in right there - no potential to leverage the supplier's USP or reputation. I suggest it's naive to presume it doesn't matter who is supplying the product or service. Service providers in particular are far from equal and the cheapest price doesn't always equate to the best value proposition. Throw in the divergent expectations of individuals...

HIPPO is actually a good example to use.
How many new insurance companies has the HIPPO created?
How many new jobs?
Could it even be costing people jobs?

[Justloadit]

HIPPO is actually a good example to use.
How many new insurance companies has the HIPPO created?
How many new jobs?
Could it even be costing people jobs?

Yep they simply change the bottom line of the quote to ensure that all the internal companies have the same turn over. One good way to ensure you do not lose business to the competition.

[gombault]

Today mining companies are using a system similar to ours. I think in the future all large concerns will follow. Before on the mines, the company representative would get orders from the mine foremen or the stores leaving scope for corruption.
The mines now send requests from someone that no one knows to all those with vender numbers for a price on a specified product.
I am a manufacturer of parts used on mines I don’t deal with mines directly. Some mines standardized on some of my products purely because of my products mountings.
The company that I supply doesn’t want me to supply to other businesses with vender numbers. He argues that he told me how the products should look and he should be the only one selling it. I argue that if all those with vender numbers see the requests for these products and they cant quote then they will get someone to make the products for them. Meaning I could have lots of competition I don’t really want.
This shows that my own system can loose me business.
But on the other hand knowing what sells can gain me business and our system will certainly do that.

You can’t take HIPPO as an example for job creation. You can’t start a one-man show insurance company. The Mines also only deal with those with vendor numbers. Yes the system can and will loose jobs in certain industries, but I think it will create far more jobs in industries that without it cant exist. Having a system that shows what people want can create many opportunities in the manufacturing and service sector.