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  • Dave A
    Site Caretaker

    • May 2006
    • 22807

    #91
    Allied Bank was just another competitor at the time.

    My understanding of the situation was Bankorp/Volkskas was failing and no-one was interested in bailing/buying them out. So the Reserve Bank loan write-offs were a sweetener to encourage a buy-out and reduce the impact of the failure. As it was, segments of the corporate structure weren't in the deal and were wound up as insolvents anyway.

    Allied probably would never had gone for the deal if the Reserve Bank debt came with the buy-out.

    It actually was quite a choppy time in banking. The mutual societies converted to companies, and some to banks (Allied being one of them), and the banks went into the bond business...

    A lot of change and a few casualties as a result too. Practically the whole financial industry went through a revolution.
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    • tec0
      Diamond Member

      • Jun 2009
      • 4624

      #92
      I find it interesting that banks would ultimately be the mechanism of evil as they are client reliant despite the fact that some believe otherwise. Banks need money to invest and it is true that there returns are substantial its main fuel will always be the earnings of the individual. It is for this reason that I do believe that losing our Constitution might be more devastating.

      At this very moment the Constitution is not a very popular debate but a very necessary one. Is it not fact that more and more companies would rather discriminate against an employee rather than allowing them there right to work. Calling it a privilege they changed the game to where one must be grateful to be treated like a slave. After all you are "taking their money". Some companies dismiss the fact outright that without the worker they will not exist.

      Workers are being compared to cockroaches! How degrading and dehumanizing is that? Fact is money is only necessary to maintain the statuesque and the truth is none of those business owners will be able to prevent a hostile takeover. Thankfully for them "the law" is also there to protect them.

      Still if it becomes a true dog eats dog world then no business owner will last long. That said what power will the business owner have if one removes money from the table? Fact is back in the day something was only yours if you can protect it. Laws made this easier but then the powerful decided that there rights are of a higher concern then the lonely slave.

      It is this type of mentality that is the true evil, not big banks not some conspiracy. In some countries woman are still regarded "less than human". And it seems that is what big companies want because they support this mindset of "do what we tell you, you have no rights" attitude how is this mindset not evil?

      I honestly don't think banks are evil, I don't think government is evil if maintained correctly". I do think individuals are. If it wasn't for basic laws and the constitution imagine the horror we would be facing today?

      In my mind there is no conspiracy, only human nature and as the powerful becomes all powerful they will corrupt… If anything history showed us this.
      peace is a state of mind
      Disclaimer: everything written by me can be considered as fictional.

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      • wynn
        Diamond Member

        • Oct 2006
        • 3338

        #93
        There is a movement in USA encouraging people to move their savings from the big banks to local savings organisations (like our building societies of old)
        Apparently billions of dollars have been moved, this is another example of the 99% expressing displeasure with the shenanigans of big capital.
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        • Frankincense
          Silver Member

          • Nov 2008
          • 201

          #94
          Only a fool is heavier to teach than dragging a bag of sand around the yard...

          @Tec0,

          Considering the fact that you use words like "evil", I am led to believe you believe in a God, as most humans who deny His existence, foolishly further deny the existence of good & evil, and will refrain from using them consciously, as it logically follows that by aknowledging these concepts exist, find it impossible to worm thier way out of accepting the source of Law, YHWH.

          Even so, if you work out your salvation with fear & trembling, assuming you consider salvation worthwhile and an attainable concept, we remember that the roll out of the prophecy concerning no buying or selling (interchangeable with the term "Transactional banking") without your number remains the responsability of the International Central & Private Commercial Banks. It's an interpretation of a prophecy I speak of. Faithless people often stumble intelectually and erronesouly confuse prophecy with conspiracy. Feel free to continue denying that Banks are to play a prominent role in this roll-out if it suites your mental well-being, many others are doing that. Time will bear testimony.
          • NO ONE will EVER change or stay the prophecy of The Revelation.
          • There will be NO transactional banking without an individual accepting the number.
          • Cash is being totally removed from circulation and the humans will be herded into the space of electronic channels as prefered secure transacting channels. In the USA only 3% of all money is in cash. Notice the high cash deposit/withdrawel fees for branch visits, but just outside at the ATM its "free" (depending on your account specs)
          • A juristic entity such as a Bank, cannot, per definition, be evil. We have not said banks are evil. You wrestle with flesh & blood. It's principalities and powers in the higher eschelons that are used to steer strategy that will be accountable severally according to their works as we are.
          • This event is most certainly an evil event with many being persecuted/killed for attempting to "by pass" or "escape" the system in order to transact outside of the parameters of 666, yet at the end of it all, this is for a better world once complete and relinquished given the described nature of events subsequent to the completion of the numbering.
          • It is immaterial where the humans wish to move thier funds to, its all about the indespensable pre-requisite of transacting to survive and live that is to cause the need for the mark to be accepted by consent, and finally by conquest.
          • In these times, Banks are not only client reliant. It's a mutual reliance that has been created by statute and social acceptance. There are commercial banks that have sufficient revenues from Corporate Financing & Funding silo's, that they dont even bother aggresively expanding thier current retail footprint ie. selling acounts for revenue generation through transaction fees to the man on the street. The International banks are only as reliant on the people as the people are on them, and we all know what the laws say concerning SARS , income regulation, paying your staff in cash without them having a bank account.
          • Therefore: Humans are reliant on Banks in order to earn an "honest - SARS returnable" living.
          • This event cannot simply be attributed to human nature. It's spoken of in The Script.
          • This event is taking place as it's written, so it shall be.



          As it was in The Beggining, so shall it be in the New World without end, as there is no end to a Good thing.


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          • tec0
            Diamond Member

            • Jun 2009
            • 4624

            #95
            @Francois (Firstly Please don't ever call me a fool again.) I was told to respect you so I will. You will note a "deleted" post as testimony to this.

            Here is biblical reasoning, firstly evil was set on this earth to test humanity or so it was written by human hands by those who wrote the first prophecy. By its very construct it was a leap of faith that set men to find the son of God.

            A son that would come into this world by virgin birth and that will have the strength and mentality to lead and teach humanity about both the existence and will of God. After the son has past the prophecy was written for his return and with him the judgment of humanity.

            From that point forward people made predictions of the coming date. Many more dates followed and continued to change to this day.

            Sadly many spiritual leaders have fallen victim to greed vanity and power. In that entity a document was drafted to keep the wrong doings of priest secret thus protecting the entity. The many victims were silenced by means of intimidation.

            This is probably one of the main reasons why people stopped believing in prophecy and in the existence of a God. Fact is those that said that only an individual could fully experienced the will of God by their own realisations and mind was brutally executed in the days of old.

            So here we are… Today many will tell you what is and what is not important but for the most part they will always insist that you are wrong and they are right. Most cults work this way and sadly it is effective.

            But in your wisdom you finality touched something that had real meaning to it. See true good and true evil exist in the realm of conscious reality alone. It is not a place it is not a system it is not a number. Regardless of believe it is neither a weapon nor technological advancement.

            Fact is good and evil can only exist in the mind of an individual. It can only live in the realm of thought. So in truth good and evil is not the product of a good or evil deity… It is a product of humanity.

            And this is the point sir. Everything is simply a tool… The mindset behind the tool gives it, its identity and purpose. Thus any tool is both the servant for good and evil.

            All you did is you find the tool box by linking facts to other facts giving it dates places. but those same systems can also be used for good. Simply because the system itself cannot exist without a mindset.
            Last edited by tec0; 11-Feb-12, 10:54 AM.
            peace is a state of mind
            Disclaimer: everything written by me can be considered as fictional.

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            • Dave A
              Site Caretaker

              • May 2006
              • 22807

              #96
              Originally posted by tec0
              (Firstly Please don't ever call me a fool again.)
              I suspect Francois presented in the biblical sense - as in "all of mankind who don't believe are foolish."

              Originally posted by tec0
              You will note a "deleted" post as testimony to this.
              Only you can see your deleted posts - and the administrator.



              There's potential for forming a new cult right there.
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              • tec0
                Diamond Member

                • Jun 2009
                • 4624

                #97
                Originally posted by Dave A
                I suspect Francois presented in the biblical sense - as in "all of mankind who don't believe are foolish."


                Only you can see your deleted posts - and the administrator.



                There's potential for forming a new cult right there.
                Well again my apologies I had no sleep for 36 hours now… I suspect that it may have affected my reasoning. But the rest of my last post I hope is still within context. However to aid the interpretation I hoped to show the conspirators that the evil in this world is also very human.

                By eliminating its teachings and history you eliminate evil's meaning. So whipping it out is very possible.
                peace is a state of mind
                Disclaimer: everything written by me can be considered as fictional.

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                • Blurock
                  Diamond Member

                  • May 2010
                  • 4203

                  #98
                  Originally posted by tec0
                  Sadly many spiritual leaders have fallen victim to greed vanity and power.
                  By using and manipulating the superstitions and pagan beliefs and rituals of people they could form their own "religions" that would give them power, wealth and position.
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                  • tec0
                    Diamond Member

                    • Jun 2009
                    • 4624

                    #99
                    Originally posted by Blurock
                    By using and manipulating the superstitions and pagan beliefs and rituals of people they could form their own "religions" that would give them power, wealth and position.
                    The rituals was designed so that the person would feel weak alone but empowered if in a group.

                    Today this type of brainwashing endured and thanks to it being taboo it forces the modern participants to stay silent about the group and its doings.

                    It is for this reason why the ritual endured and is still practiced by the selected members.

                    However these rituals are in reality just that. We know these people are not special in any way.

                    So what are they? Human only human like you it faces its mortality with uncertainty.

                    Nothing is as powerful as these people make them out to be. Saying that they are simply doesn't make it so.
                    peace is a state of mind
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                    • wynn
                      Diamond Member

                      • Oct 2006
                      • 3338

                      #100
                      I think the late Christopher Hitchens put it very well.

                      "What can be asserted without proof can be dismissed without proof"
                      "Nobody who has succeeded has not failed along the way"
                      Arianna Huffington

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                      • msmoorad
                        Bronze Member

                        • Jan 2009
                        • 179

                        #101
                        i came across this just now & i think its worth posting:


                        by Henry Makow Ph.D.

                        Terrorism is not terrorism when it is sponsored by the Illuminati Jewish banking cartel.

                        From 1961-1990, the African National Congress waged a terrorist war against the Apartheid government of South Africa. The African National Congress is an Illuminati Jewish front. Therefore this terror was characterized as a "peoples' struggle" in the Zionist-controlled mass media.

                        However, when the Palestinians employed terror against the Apartheid regime of Israel, they are "terrorists." Never mind that Israel was built on Zionist terror against the British. Terror is not terror when the Illuminati Jews or their shills use it.

                        (Terrorist Mandela wins 1994 Nobel Peace Prize)

                        So in South Africa during the 1960's and 70's, barely a week would go by without terrorism -- dynamite at a fuel depot, a car bomb outside Air Force headquarters in in a city center. The ANC's guerrilla force -- known simply as MK, or more formally as Umkhonto we Sizwe translated "Spear of the Nation" was founded in 1961 by Nelson Mandela and his handler, the Communist Jew Joe Slovo.

                        At first, the targets were infrastructure but two decades later MK was killing civilians without compunction -- grenades would be bowled in to a hamburger joint, or trip wired limper mine planted in an arcade -- and Mandela did not object.

                        "Notable among these attacks were the 8 January 1982 attack on the Koeberg nuclear power plant near Cape Town, coinciding with the 70th anniversary of the formation of the ANC, the Church Street bombing on 20 May 1983, killing 19, and the 14 June 1986 car-bombing of Magoo's Bar in Durban, in which 3 people were killed and 73 injured." (Wikipedia)

                        Of course, Mandela had been in jail since 1963 when MK headquarters on a farm outside Johannesburg was raided. The ANC was funded and run by Communist Jews who in turn were shills for the Illuminati bankers. Mandela posed as a farmhand.

                        The farm was purchased and run by Jewish Communist Arthur Goldreich, left.

                        In 1985 when the government offered to release Mandela if he would repudiate terrorism, he refused. In 1990 he was let out anyway and vowed the MK would continue to wreak havoc. It was not necessary. Terrorism had worked.

                        The government was ready to negotiate a handover of power. In 1994, Mandela and F.W. de Klerk shared a Nobel Peace Prize. How quickly a terrorist becomes a man of peace! Queen Elizabeth II in her 1996 Christmas message hailed Mandela as a great statesman. (The account of MK terror is indebted to Philip Gourevitch's review of the novel "Absolution" in The New Yorker, April 30, 2012, p.70)

                        ANC IS A COMMUNIST JEWISH FRONT

                        Thanks to Michael Hoffman II, we know:


                        "The African National Congress (ANC) in South Africa was guided by two Communist Jews, Albie Sachs, "one of its foremost intellectuals"( London Sunday Times, August 29, 1993) and Yossel Mashel Slovo (Joe Slovo, 1926-1995).

                        Slovo was born in a shtetl in Lithuania and grew up speaking Yiddish and studying the Talmud. He joined the ANC's terrorist wing, the Umkhonto we Sizwe, in 1961 and eventually became its commander. He was named Secretary General of the South African Communist Party in 1986. ("Joe Slovo," Jewish Chronicle, January 13, 1995).

                        Slovo had been the "planner of many of the ANC terrorist attacks, including the 1983 car bomb that killed 19 people and injured many others... Slovo, who had traveled to the Soviet Union many times, was awarded a Soviet medal on his 60th birthday...Slovo is a dedicated Communist, a Marxist Leninist without morality of any kind, for whom only victory counts, whatever the human cost, whatever the bloodshed...Slovo disputes little of his image as 'the Communist mastermind' behind the ANC's armed struggle.


                        (Albie Sachs, left)

                        'Revolutionary violence has created the inspirational impact that we had intended, and it has won for the ANC its leading position,' Slovo said." ("Rebel Strategist Seeks to End Apartheid," L.A. Times, Aug. 16, 1987, p. 14). When Nelson Mandela's ANC took over South Africa, Slovo was named Minister of Housing."

                        Keep reading for South African housing conditions.


                        COMMUNISM IS A RUSE

                        Generally speaking, Jewish social & political activism serves the Illuminati agenda. Jewish activists are dupes or opportunists. The ANC, like Communism in general, deceived the masses into overthrowing the government and installing bank tellers like Nelson Mandela.

                        The plight of Blacks in South Africa is much worse under the "peoples' government." Under ANC governance the number of people living on $1 a day has doubled from two to four million. The unemployment rate doubled to 48% from 1991-2002. (It is 24% today.)

                        In 2006, only 5,000 of the more than 35 million black South Africans earned more than $60,000. A quarter of the entire population lived in shacks without running water or electricity. A quarter have no access to clean water. 40% have no telephone.

                        The HIV/AIDS/TB infection rate is 20%. Life expectancy dropped by 13 years. 40% of schools have no electricity.

                        Where is the ANC'S concern for the people? Obviously it was a ruse that enabled the bankers to gain control over South Africa's resources. Source


                        CONCLUSION

                        Terrorism is an instrument of the Illuminati Jewish central banking cartel based in London. Ninety five percent of the world's terror, including 9-11, can be traced to this source via the world's intelligence services, especially the CIA, Mossad and MI-6. They are funding the Taliban so Americans can waste themselves in endless war.
                        source:http://www.henrymakow.com/
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                        i dont agree with the last sentence as theTaliban are NOT the wests blue eyed boys anymore
                        since they have refused to give them permission to build the oil/natural gas pipeline from the Caspian Sea down through Afghanistan into the port in Pakistan.
                        the same people when they were fighting the Soviets-ie doing the wests dirty work for them were called "freedom fighters"-now that things are not so good they are called "terrorists" etc
                        Last edited by Dave A; 05-May-12, 09:39 AM. Reason: format cleanup
                        A “conspiracy theory” no longer means an event explained by a conspiracy. Instead, it now means any explanation, or even a fact, that is out of step with the government’s explanation and that of its media pimps.

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                        • tec0
                          Diamond Member

                          • Jun 2009
                          • 4624

                          #102
                          My question is always why? Motive is key to anything and I feel that the profit of war is a bit dodgy after all the risks involved are really high. I am not saying wars are not profitable, I am saying that human suffering is not the justifiable.

                          What I hate about most conspiracies it always boils down to the unknown. I am sorry but any transaction can be known and is only a matter of investigation. I don’t think people believe in the Illuminati anymore.

                          Considering that weapons can mop a continent clean with a single strike with the most expensive weapons known to humanity. And yet most of the wars that we saw on TV are still made by very primitive weapons.

                          Basically as a warmonger the Illuminati failed.

                          They sell a hell of a lot of old crap but the really expensive new weapons never get used? And yet these new supper weapons have a devastating effect and will allow for future contracts for the next 200 years.

                          I am sorry but it just doesn’t gel…
                          peace is a state of mind
                          Disclaimer: everything written by me can be considered as fictional.

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                          • Blurock
                            Diamond Member

                            • May 2010
                            • 4203

                            #103
                            @msmoorad The problem with conspiracy theories is that it distorts the truth just enough to make it almost plausible. It appears as if your hatred for Jews may be clouding your judgement.
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                            • vieome
                              Email problem

                              • Apr 2012
                              • 540

                              #104
                              One mans terrorist is another mans freedom fighter

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                              • Frankincense
                                Silver Member

                                • Nov 2008
                                • 201

                                #105
                                Last edited by Dave A; 21-May-12, 08:00 PM.

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