Premicells, private calls and people who don't answer their phone

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  • Dave A
    Site Caretaker

    • May 2006
    • 22803

    #1

    Premicells, private calls and people who don't answer their phone

    One of the general settings on premicells is not to display the calling number to whomever you're calling. The theory is that premicells are for outgoing calls, and excessive call-ins on premicell lines would tie up available lines for anyone trying to call out to a cellphone number.

    There are two notable drawbacks.

    If you have to leave a message, the client can't just hit some shortcut to call you back. A nuisance, but the next is becoming a real problem.

    There are an increasing number of people who will not answer their cellphone if the calling number isn't displayed. We're finding it time and time again. We'll call a cellphone number through the switchboard and the client won't answer. After a number of attempts, we'll use a normal cellphone and bingo - the client takes the call.

    So why don't people answer calls when the calling number isn't displayed?
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  • Moneymaker
    Full Member
    • Mar 2008
    • 43

    #2
    Personally I dont believe I have to answer a ringing phone. A ringing phone to me is an invitation to answer the phone (except if it's my business line.....) not an obligation. Business people ONLY phone you now-a-days when they want something from you. when was the last time a supplier contacted you to say "Hi, hello, we were just thinking about you, really appreciate you, hope you have a great day." If they did this we'd all answer our phones a lot more. For me the issue is, if I answer the phone it's going to cost me money......or time.....I have neither at my disposal (simply because I dont want to give of either) so I'd rather save myself the trouble and hit the button marked <silence> on that ringing phone unless I know for sure that it's someone I'd like to talk to.....

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    • duncan drennan
      Email problem

      • Jun 2006
      • 2642

      #3
      I believe that one of the big issues is that a number of unsolicited calls (particularly from banks) come via unknown numbers. For me it depends a little bit on what time of the day an unknown number calls. If it is after 17h00 I'm practically guaranteed not to answer it. If they leave a message I will return the call though.

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      • Sieg
        Bronze Member

        • Oct 2006
        • 126

        #4
        Premicell / number withheld

        I do not take any calls on my cellphone where the display reads "withheld". Simple as that. If the caller does not want me to know who he / she is, I don't want to talk to that caller.

        Sieg

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        • Debbiedle
          Gold Member

          • Jun 2006
          • 561

          #5
          Two of my staff use my home line to call out on for business. Caller ID is therefore turned off, otherwise I get a thousand people phoning in on it at all hours of the day.

          Of the cellphone calls I get approx 60% are on private number. Most of those are my clients. I cannot afford not to answer them.
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          • Neville Bailey
            Diamond Member

            • Nov 2010
            • 2786

            #6
            Originally posted by duncan drennan
            I believe that one of the big issues is that a number of unsolicited calls (particularly from banks) come via unknown numbers. For me it depends a little bit on what time of the day an unknown number calls. If it is after 17h00 I'm practically guaranteed not to answer it. If they leave a message I will return the call though.
            I'm with you on this one - however, it's not only banks, but various telemarketers.

            I recently installed a nifty little application onto my BlackBerry that immediately diverts all incoming calls, that don't have CLI, to my voicemail box. What a life saver! Most don't even bother to leave a message...
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            • murdock
              Suspended

              • Oct 2007
              • 2346

              #7
              since i had the problem with virgin and had to go back to mtn...i also had to change my number...

              in the begining it was a curse because people couldnt get hold hold of me...but in another way it was great because i sent out emails and sms to everyone of importance to update my number...it generated work because people got the email and remebered they needed things done so they called me.

              but the best part is all the promotion stuff...telemarketing etc all goes to that phone...i dont bother replying to unlisted numbers only listed numbers.

              i also dont get please call me all the time.

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              • Martinco
                Gold Member

                • Oct 2008
                • 927

                #8
                Well, the above responses give the answer !

                Personally my business premicell does indicate the caller number for the exact reasons as above, but I also do not answer "private number" calls, so if by some chance you do want to call my on a cell, make sure the number display is on.
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                • BusFact
                  Gold Member

                  • Jun 2010
                  • 843

                  #9
                  Originally posted by Dave A
                  So why don't people answer calls when the calling number isn't displayed?
                  Quite simply because I'm sick of telemarketing. I will not answer any unknown number on my phone, especially a private/with held number.

                  Its cheaper in terms of time and frustration to rather call back if its a genuine caller who left a message.

                  I'm fortunate in that I'm not directly in sales so can afford to do this. My sales guys are not quite as lucky and I often hear them trying to fend off these terriers.

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                  • AndyD
                    Diamond Member

                    • Jan 2010
                    • 4946

                    #10
                    Originally posted by BusFact
                    ...I often hear them trying to fend off these terriers.
                    I was also a victim of my own etiquette at one time. I used to listen to the locust on the other end until I could get a polite 'no thank you I'm not interested....' in when they paused for their first breath. Years of unsolicited telemarketing now has me just hanging up during the first three words of their introduction.
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                    • Dave A
                      Site Caretaker

                      • May 2006
                      • 22803

                      #11
                      And there I was thinking it was to avoid taking calls from debt collectors

                      Oh well. With the call fee structures we have nowadays, I think my premicells are going offline when the current contract is up.
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                      • BusFact
                        Gold Member

                        • Jun 2010
                        • 843

                        #12
                        Originally posted by AndyD
                        I was also a victim of my own etiquette at one time. I used to listen to the locust on the other end until I could get a polite 'no thank you I'm not interested....' in when they paused for their first breath. Years of unsolicited telemarketing now has me just hanging up during the first three words of their introduction.
                        I find if I hang up, they just phone back again ... and again. Although I suppose it would be okay to then ignore that call.

                        I hope that by never answering they take me off their lists as a non existent number ... yeah right.

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                        • flaker
                          Silver Member

                          • May 2010
                          • 419

                          #13
                          Originally posted by BusFact
                          I find if I hang up, they just phone back again ... and again. Although I suppose it would be okay to then ignore that call.

                          I hope that by never answering they take me off their lists as a non existent number ... yeah right.
                          not a chance. they too idiotic to even understand that they're not wanted

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                          • Justloadit
                            Diamond Member

                            • Nov 2010
                            • 3518

                            #14
                            I think that you can set up the Premicell number to allow the CLI to go through, but not to receive calls, So if anyone tries to call the number back it is engaged all the time. Alternatively, I think this is a preferred way is to set up a voice mail answer on the premicell number. After all it is a SIM card just like any cellphone, they have simply set up to disable the CLI (Call Line Identification). You probably can do this yourself by inserting it into a normal phone and going though the call options.

                            "Hi you have reached ABC Enterprise, we can not take your call on this line, but if you phone 123456, then we will be happy to help you"
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                            • Blesh
                              Full Member
                              • Jul 2010
                              • 29

                              #15
                              I also do not answer a private number call as I believe that if you are important enough to the person on the other end they will leave a message. On a similar issue around basic manners I find it extremely frustrating at how many people do not return messages or even sms's. I think we are becoming so inundated with junk calls that a lot of people do not even take the time to check missed calls or messages.

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