Does an existing lease signed with old property owner binds new owner?

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  • SSS100
    Silver Member

    • Oct 2011
    • 212

    #1

    Does an existing lease signed with old property owner binds new owner?

    Hi All,

    Bought a property recently in a complex, the seller had tenants in and they had a lease agreement with him until January 2015
    Now, the registration of the property into my name is in place and I need to move in as soon as its done (per offer to purchase signed)

    Does the existing lease binds me? in such a way that now I can not move into the property in June because of the tenants lease that is in place?

    I'm lost, please help

    Thank you
  • flaker
    Silver Member

    • May 2010
    • 419

    #2
    HI SSS100,
    your agreement would have stated whether you are getting vacant possession of the property or not. The lease of the present tenant would have stated that the remaining portion of the lease, should the seller sell, would form part of the deal.

    Your best bet would be to negotiate with the tenant offering some moneys to have lease cancelled.

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    • SSS100
      Silver Member

      • Oct 2011
      • 212

      #3
      The signed Offer To Purchases(OTP) states the following:

      Part 4.
      Occupation of property shall be given to the purchaser on REGISTRATION……

      Part 5.
      Possession of the property will be given to the purchaser upon date of transfer….

      NB:
      No referral is made with regard to existing tenants in the OTP, which should have been stated if tenants had ongoing lease which will still be effective

      As such, my understanding is that the current lease tenants have is with seller, and upon registration I become owner and entitled to occupy property per above clauses, unless of course there is then a new lease between myself and tenants

      Is my understanding correct legally?

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      • wynn
        Diamond Member

        • Oct 2006
        • 3338

        #4
        Unfortunately 'Huur gaan voor koop' so any lease the tenants had with the previous owner is binding on you irrespective of what the OTP says.
        You have a claim against the seller for any loss you may incur while you wait for the lease to expire, having said that good luck trying to enforce that.

        As said above, find the tenants other accommodation and give them an incentive to move. Perhaps a financial one or remove the front and back door for repairs and start renovating the bathroom and kitchen by removing the toilet, sink and geyser.
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        • Houses4Rent
          Gold Member

          • Mar 2014
          • 803

          #5
          Wynn is right that tenants have the right to stay. Seller should have given due notice if he was really committing VACANT occupation.

          It seems that OTP did not say VACANT occupation, so seller is not obliged hand it over empty.

          When I do my due diligence I always ask for lease end of current tenants and what they pay. However, seller and agent should have mentioned ia tenant they have some integrity.

          You cannot remove doors etc. That will land you in hot water (spoilation). Rather try to help them fididng somehing new and maybe offer them a golden handshake. Legally you have little or no chance in my view. Or just explain and ask them nicely whether they are prepared to move earlier without any pressure first.
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          • SSS100
            Silver Member

            • Oct 2011
            • 212

            #6
            All views noted, thank you all
            I think first i will try to get them to leave. If they insist on syating, then i will unfortunately go Wynn route...just be impossible and start with some work in the place
            Make their life a living hell

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            • HR Solutions
              Suspended

              • Mar 2013
              • 3358

              #7
              Even if they were illegal squatters in the house you would still have a problem (legally), but wynn's route would be my way of going forward if .......

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              • desA
                Platinum Member

                • Jan 2010
                • 1023

                #8
                I think first i will try to get them to leave. If they insist on syating, then i will unfortunately go Wynn route...just be impossible and start with some work in the place
                Make their life a living hell
                You cannot do this! They have every right to see you off via an attorney & will win outright. If they continue paying their rental then there is little you can do, except try to win them over.

                You have been taken by the seller!
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                • HR Solutions
                  Suspended

                  • Mar 2013
                  • 3358

                  #9
                  Yes the seller should have divulged everything to you especially if he had leases in place.

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                  • SSS100
                    Silver Member

                    • Oct 2011
                    • 212

                    #10
                    Dont' worry..have a plan already and its good bye tenats

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                    • desA
                      Platinum Member

                      • Jan 2010
                      • 1023

                      #11
                      I'm most concerned at your attitude towards YOUR tenants!
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                      • HR Solutions
                        Suspended

                        • Mar 2013
                        • 3358

                        #12
                        Yeah I agree. If I was your tenant you would have a problem.

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                        • SSS100
                          Silver Member

                          • Oct 2011
                          • 212

                          #13
                          They were never mine

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                          • SSS100
                            Silver Member

                            • Oct 2011
                            • 212

                            #14
                            I don't have any lease agreement with them...the lease shows them and someone else, I dont owe them anything

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                            • SSS100
                              Silver Member

                              • Oct 2011
                              • 212

                              #15
                              I will be visiting the place tomorow..and i will make sure i have my Red Barret

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