Oscar - SA's OJ case

[newBix]

It being a murder trial, I doubt the judge (or anyone else for that matter) will want any stone left unturned.

The stakes are high.

I think this will teach South Africans not to get involved or become a witness. I mean he asked the same question over and over again just the get the witness to say something else so that he could use it against her. I mean he even used the translator against the witness what type of creep does that? He tried to twist every word around he got corrected at some stage where it was pointed out he actually twisted the facts. Yes he apologised but in the end he only apologised because of the objection made otherwise he would just have carried on.

Oscar's legal team will play the witnesses against each other like he did today.

[Mike C]

I also thought that she handled her testimony very well (the parts that I heard). I might have missed something, but after her statement I was wanting to ask why she didn't phone the police after the (incorrect) security firm hung up on her husband. It was, after all, such a traumatic event that she even feared someone was shot ...

[sterne.law@gmail.com]

On a similar vein, she claims to have been traumatised and it was dramatic, yet she went to sleep after hearing the screaming and 4 shots.
Going to sleep, so easily, seems to fly in the face of her trauma and how impactful the events were.

[newBix]

I also thought that she handled her testimony very well (the parts that I heard). I might have missed something, but after her statement I was wanting to ask why she didn't phone the police after the (incorrect) security firm hung up on her husband. It was, after all, such a traumatic event that she even feared someone was shot ...

phoning the police will not help because they didn't know at that stage what house was "robbed" or who was in trouble. And you can't expect the police to go from door to door. That said I am more interested in this. Normally when you have a security system in your house it comes with panic buttons. So why not press the button set of the alarm? If he really was "that fearful" of an attacker... Then surely his alarm system had to have panic buttons I mean everyone that owns a alarm system and is with a security company knows where the panic buttons are. it is the first thing they show you.

[newBix]

On a similar vein, she claims to have been traumatised and it was dramatic, yet she went to sleep after hearing the screaming and 4 shots.
Going to sleep, so easily, seems to fly in the face of her trauma and how impactful the events were.

She did say she was grieving "sorrowful" because someone close to her lost a child. Now it can be that she was simply exhausted before this event happened. It is possible.

but the seal clubbing will continue today. I really don't want to be her.

[HR Solutions]

yet she went to sleep after hearing the screaming and 4 shots.
Going to sleep, so easily, seems to fly in the face of her trauma and how impactful the events were.

Yes this does seem a bit weird. We do live in SA and I have also heard shots fired at night, sometimes you cannot figure out how far away it was, and you do go back to sleep, because of our environment, But if you think about it, if you heard "screaming" first, then gunshots, I would certainly go out and investigate !! - I would definitely phone security / and or the police, because if you hear these two together there is certainly something wrong.

[pmbguy]

Just to touch on the panic button thing. If I was armed and I notice an intruder in the house who has not seen me yet I would not push the panic button because I would lose the element of surprise, I want the initiative. Either letting them come to me whilst I remain hidden (Ambush) or seek them out actively-carefully, perhaps a do a Chuck Norris. But I recon at some point I would still push the panic button, even just to get the security and cops to the right house.

The defence’s main strategy must surely be that his condition caused him to have an abnormal fear of intruders – a disability induced obsession even. This is totally plausible. From very young he has had this fear etc, family/friends testify to that ect.

I think he is a volatile violent man, who after a protracted argument took out his pistol cocked it and said “fuct this!”




@Oscar - If you Really thought she was an intruder...then I wish you the best of luck boet.

[newBix]

Thing is if you are that fearful why do you want to do a Chuck Norris?

[pmbguy]

Thing is if you are that fearful why do you want to do a Chuck Norris?

That paragraph pertains to how I would respond when armed. Me not Oscar. I would potentially, given ideal conditions, open a can of Chuck. Technically you can’t actually do a Chuck though, because let’s be honest Chuck Norris can’t be copied. Man cannot impersonate a God.

[pmbguy]

Fear may actually make some people do a Chuck Norris, given the right situation. Fear does not automatically mean one remains passive.

[newBix]

Fear may actually make some people do a Chuck Norris, given the right situation. Fear does not automatically mean one remains passive.

Ok you think there is someone in your house you wip out your big ass gun. Now you walk bravely to where this criminal is steeling your toilet seat. You pull the trigger hitting who ever behind the door. Now if it was me behind the door being shot at I would scream surrender I would piss myself I would take dump in my undies.

Here is what is said. The first shot was followed by a pause! Now don't you think that the person that was hit by a bullet would have screamed or something in that few seconds? I mean if you ever hurt yourself you know that "OOOOOOOOoouch!!!!" is instantaneous

Here is my biggest question, why was the door locked? We know it was locked because he had to break the door down. There is just 2 people in the house they are sleeping together and she locks the door when using the toilet?

Lastly that lawyer was not nice with the first witness he had ZERO compassion...

[sterne.law@gmail.com]

Some people do lock the door.
Advocate has a job to do, and he has his back against the wall.

[desA]

Looks like little to do with justice, & a lot to do with theatre... so incredibly sad.

In Asia, Pistorius would be dead by now, in all likelihood.

[newBix]

Some people do lock the door.
Advocate has a job to do, and he has his back against the wall.

he pointed out today that it seems as the statements was copies of each other. if i was this dude i would see who was responsible for taking the statements then i would group the statements and look for similarities.

then i will take the similarities represent them to the court and argue that something must have taken place for those similarities to occur then ask the Judge to make a ruling if they will still accept the statements or reject them.

if there is enough similarities then they have to ask why right?

[Dave A]

Irresistible!