30 Day Challenge To Get Your Business Online

[workshop]

I am afraid I have thrust you into the lions den.

Have a look at https://www.facebook.com/villagecard

This is not SEO.
This is social media marketing.
They go hand in hand. But are very different

The link we placed on a brand new web site has pulled you from nowhere to page #10 for “printing in Pretoria”. That is SEO
The exposure you are getting on Facebook is more about traffic than link building and ranking.

The links we place on Facebook have little or no effect on your Google ranking. The same applies to blog comments, forum posting and wherever links use the no follow tag

[Dave A]

The same applies to blog comments, forum posting and wherever links use the no follow tag

That's not entirely true.

Public blog comments and forum post are an excellent source of link juice when they're are not marked with nofollow tags.

And Google does follow and crawl pages linked via nofollow tags, so they're not entirely worthless. The link just doesn't pass on any PageRank score (at least officially - I'd suggest one could take that theory with a pinch of salt too).

[workshop]

Which is why it is important to understand the need to contribute rather than simply looting whatever and wherever one can; thinking that it is OK. Wordpress comments are "no follow" by default. Yet the Akismet spam control plugin is still an essential add on for every Wordpress web site.

[workshop]

The same applies to blog comments, forum posting and wherever links are tagged as "no follow"

Maybe I should have said:

"The same applies to blog comments and forum posting that are no followed or wherever else you find the no follow tag"

What the web masters are saying by using the no follow tag is that they don't want link spam.
And that should be enough to get link builders to back off
But unfortunately it is not.

And Google does follow and crawl pages linked via nofollow tags, so they're not entirely worthless. The link just doesn't pass on any PageRank score (at least officially - I'd suggest one could take that theory with a pinch of salt too).

Do links from Facebook and other social media sites that are no followed help one to improve a sites ranking in the search results?

[lance71]

So basically follow and no follow links will help in this quest?

[workshop]

One can never be certain. But if you are link building for SEO purposes best to stay clear of "no follow" links
The web master is telling you that they don't want you using their site to build links
And building links which get deleted or which are of questionable value is simply a waste of time.

You build links to last. You want to search for links that are going to give you mileage, three years at the very least.
They are a low value, high volume asset.
And links need time to grow and to mature.
So look for fertile ground where you are wanted and welcomed and where the site has a purpose other than just offering the links you want.

"No Follow" links should be used if you are building traffic as opposed to optimising your rankings
And once again you want choose the time and place and to ensure you are contributing and giving users every reason to follow and look at what you have

[lance71]

How would you be able to find out or tell if the site has follow or no follow links? Go into the source code?

[workshop]

Right click the page where the link appears
Select view source code
And see if it looks anything like this <a href="http://www.example.com/" rel="nofollow">Link text</a>

[lance71]

I have just seen I’m 4th for large quantity printing Gauteng

Moving up nicely, and well happy with that so far.

[IanF]

I have just seen I’m 4th for large quantity printing Gauteng

Moving up nicely, and well happy with that so far.

Lance that is great, of the inquiries you get from that what % is converted to sales. We stopped advertising in the yellow pages as printers as the quality of inquiries was not worth it for us.

[workshop]

I have just seen I’m 4th for large quantity printing Gauteng

Moving up nicely, and well happy with that so far.

If you work slowly and steadily at this you will get them all.
But that is only half of it.

Lance that is great, of the inquiries you get from that what % is converted to sales. We stopped advertising in the yellow pages as printers as the quality of inquiries was not worth it for us.

Google rankings bring you occasional enquiries.
It depends on who is looking


We will grow the link building into a community build
That is where the work comes from.
Google, the internet is just another tool you use in conjunction with everything else you do
It is mostly free for those that care to experiment and explore
And it is fast becoming the most useful and powerful tool we have to make this stuff happen

[lance71]

Im afraid to say i have had no inquiries so far which makes me wonder a bit but I am being patient and hoping for the best.

[workshop]

A watched pot never boils
It's a fishing float

All ways of saying you will eventually realise that you will only get a bite when you least expect it.
And not as often as you would like.
None of this is easy.
If it was we would all be doing it and then it would get even more competitive.

Right now you and I have a head start on everyone else.
We are at least looking.
But I cant stress it enough, temper your expectations and rather think long term

[workshop]

Have you checked:

Large quantity print runs in Pretoria
Large quantity printing in Pretoria

This is just the beginning
Something you want to work at slowly and steadily
Month after month

[workshop]

When we first started discussing SEO we agreed on an amount of R95 a month. At the time I tried to stress the fact that the biggest obstacle one hits, is a clients expectations. We then went on to place a couple of links that pointed back to your site and it started popping up all over Google. This resulted in movement. You were catapulted from nowhere to somewhere. This was nothing short of spectacular, to me at least.

Im afraid to say i have had no inquiries so far which makes me wonder a bit but I am being patient and hoping for the best.

Google is an open book.

A tool anyone can use and this is where it goes pear shaped. You are prepared to pay $10 a month in the hope that you get what you want. And you are going to receive many mails offering you 100 directory submissions, blog comments, forum posts not to mention articles that they will write and submit for you. And sooner or later you are going to try it. You won't be wrong. Their links or at least some of them will work. But the net result is that you will become part of a problem. Part of a plethora of totally useless web sites created solely to generate links that are intended to get you and everyone else to the front of the search results.

And you are wasting both your time and your money.

These sites are eventually going to hit a filter, the links will be devalued and the owner will dump the domain. This leaves you in the invidious situation where you find you have to keep running faster and faster just to stay in the same place, trapped on a treadmill of your own making. Don't go there. Don't waste your time and money. Rather learn the value of patience and do it properly the first time out.

On the other side of the coin you may have noted that after posting the "sponsored" link on Another Lazy Day you popped up on Page #10 of the results. But your site has now dropped off the radar for "printing in Pretoria". The chances are that after the song and dance I made some mean spirited malignant type reported it as spam. This is to be expected. There is a holier than thou troupe of so called experts who believe they have a divine right to charge you for hot air, jargon and bluster. They are the dark side. The spoilers and disinformation experts.

Give me the quick change artists any day of the week. Life in their lane is fast and furious. They lie with a smile on their face. And why not? You are the one who is driven. You are the one who can't wait for the tree to grow. Why should they not lighten your pocket by telling you what you want to believe, even though you should know better.