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  • Wiz
    Full Member

    • May 2013
    • 76

    #1

    NEED Help From You Guys.

    Hello Everybody,

    I want to start a SEO business in South Africa and looking to move toward having a big brand which helps business. Need help as i'm not local, i'm from Mumbai (INDIA).

    Have few questions.
    1) Which license i need to obtain to run a business in south Africa ?

    2) Bank account ( Do i need a registered office over here to obtain it ?)
    Can i just get a merchant processor and get the money from them.

    3) I am pretty small with capital but have tons of experience with SEO. Do i need a big capital ?

    I have left by previous JOB of as a Technical Head, frustrated with my SEO company which ranks superior in Google South Africa .

    Waiting eagerly to start a big venture.
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  • Dave A
    Site Caretaker

    • May 2006
    • 22807

    #2
    Assuming you are operating from offshore:

    Originally posted by Wiz
    Have few questions.
    1) Which license i need to obtain to run a business in south Africa ?
    None.

    Originally posted by Wiz
    Bank account ( Do i need a registered office over here to obtain it ?)
    Yes, or at least some sort of formal local representation, I think. To open a bank account here there is a process called FICA which must be complied with. The consequences would lead to a whole lot of other requirements...

    Originally posted by Wiz
    Can i just get a merchant processor and get the money from them.
    Yes, probably. And likely to be less onerous than trying to open a bank account.

    Originally posted by Wiz
    3) I am pretty small with capital but have tons of experience with SEO. Do i need a big capital ?
    That really depends how you go about it, what your target market is - a whole host of questions really.
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    • Wiz
      Full Member

      • May 2013
      • 76

      #3
      Thanks a lot Dave. My point of getting a Bank account was for trust factor so businesses know that I'm wanting to do a legit business.
      I'm just looking to get a brand built up, ready to give free services as well to small business to i might get a reference from them.

      Will look at FICA. Pretty desperate to start a business here.
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      • Dave A
        Site Caretaker

        • May 2006
        • 22807

        #4
        Originally posted by Wiz
        My point of getting a Bank account was for trust factor so businesses know that I'm wanting to do a legit business.
        It's the issue of credentials, credibility and differentiation that's had me chewing things over quite carefully before saying anything at all.

        Obviously the most cost effective, lowest setup cost way is to just "do it all online" and work from where you are. In this respect I already see one differentiator between you and much of what I have seen from previous "SEO experts" from your neck of the woods that have passed through TFSA - when it comes to servicing the English speaking market, you've got a great written communication style.

        However, I do see a number of problems with the "offshore, totally online" approach...

        Here are a few threads on TFSA you should read that relate to the topic:
        One on The Tech Guys
        One on New Approach Marketing (which may or may not have resurfaced under various marketing names in South Africa).

        And then this one: Your opinion on meetings.
        Last edited by Dave A; 26-Jun-13, 12:16 PM.
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        • Mike C
          Diamond Member

          • Apr 2012
          • 2892

          #5
          Will look at FICA.
          Trouble with FICA is that you will need an ID Document, and a Utility Bill which has your South African Residential Address on it as proof of residence.

          Not too sure where you would go from here. Perhaps the best would be to contact a South African Bank and see what they would require from you to open an account here as a non-resident.
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          • workshop
            Email problem

            • Mar 2013
            • 220

            #6
            Originally posted by Wiz
            Thanks a lot Dave. My point of getting a Bank account was for trust factor so businesses know that I'm wanting to do a legit business.
            After decades of mismanagement, control and manipulation our local industry is a little stunted and backward thinking. So yes there are opportunities. But proceed with caution. You won't want to do business with anyone who still believes that a local bank account makes a difference.

            Originally posted by Wiz
            I'm just looking to get a brand built up, ready to give free services as well to small business to i might get a reference from them.
            We are doing much the same thing and would welcome your input. Have plenty of small businesses that need help. But this part of the world is not known as God's Waiting Room for nothing. They are all hard of hearing.
            -

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            • Mark Atkinson
              Gold Member

              • Jul 2010
              • 796

              #7
              I'll give you one thing - your approach is a lot better than most of the other offshore SEO "experts" I've come across.

              Good luck.

              If you're up to it, you can PM me with a few sites that you've done SEO on. You could be useful to us if I like your work.
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              • Dave A
                Site Caretaker

                • May 2006
                • 22807

                #8
                Originally posted by Mark Atkinson
                your approach is a lot better than most of the other offshore SEO "experts" I've come across.
                Yep - I smell some talent there. There may be a fit between the two of you.
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                • Dave A
                  Site Caretaker

                  • May 2006
                  • 22807

                  #9
                  Originally posted by Mike C
                  Trouble with FICA is that you will need an ID Document, and a Utility Bill which has your South African Residential Address on it as proof of residence.
                  Or register a company, rent premises and organise utilities etc. What a schlep just to have a formal local presence!

                  I did wonder if opening an HSBC or Citibank Rand account would face the same hurdles, but it's outside of my experience.
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                  • Wiz
                    Full Member

                    • May 2013
                    • 76

                    #10
                    Originally posted by Dave A
                    It's the issue of credentials, credibility and differentiation that's had me chewing things over quite carefully before saying anything at all.

                    Obviously the most cost effective, lowest setup cost way is to just "do it all online" and work from where you are. In this respect I already see one differentiator between you and much of what I have seen from previous "SEO experts" from your neck of the woods that have passed through TFSA - when it comes to servicing the English speaking market, you've got a great written communication style.

                    However, I do see a number of problems with the "offshore, totally online" approach...

                    Here are a few threads on TFSA you should read that relate to the topic:
                    One on The Tech Guys
                    One on New Approach Marketing (which may or may not have resurfaced under various marketing names in South Africa).

                    And then this one: Your opinion on meetings.
                    Thanks Dave. I'm not sure whether small businesses can opt for something like PayPal. However i still believe if i provide quality services then nothing can stop me.
                    The owner of Tech guys is a big Scammer, he is responsible for ruining hell lot of businesses. New approach marketing and The tech guys (seo4k , seo7k) is a same fella from UK i.e Altrincham.
                    Link - http://fbginternetscam.blogspot.com

                    I'm glad to be on TFSA. You guys Motivated me a lot, back on track after 6 months of stupidity.
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                    • Wiz
                      Full Member

                      • May 2013
                      • 76

                      #11
                      Originally posted by Mike C
                      Trouble with FICA is that you will need an ID Document, and a Utility Bill which has your South African Residential Address on it as proof of residence.

                      Not too sure where you would go from here. Perhaps the best would be to contact a South African Bank and see what they would require from you to open an account here as a non-resident.
                      Hopefully will figure-out something for the bank account.I have a friend who runs his business in Pretoria. Fingers crossed.
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                      • flaker
                        Silver Member

                        • May 2010
                        • 419

                        #12
                        one gets the idea from your website that you are London based? Not Mumbai?

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                        • Wiz
                          Full Member

                          • May 2013
                          • 76

                          #13
                          Originally posted by flaker
                          one gets the idea from your website that you are London based? Not Mumbai?
                          Ahhhh. My bad didn't changed that map thingy. Fixed it.

                          Originally posted by Mark Atkinson
                          I'll give you one thing - your approach is a lot better than most of the other offshore SEO "experts" I've come across.

                          Good luck.

                          If you're up to it, you can PM me with a few sites that you've done SEO on. You could be useful to us if I like your work.
                          Thanks Mark. I just love your site, pretty creative and right on the target. Front page rankings on Google SA, you seem to be owner of Web designing and SEO wisdom in South Africa. Its my pleasure that you offered me something which looks pretty interesting will pm you.

                          Originally posted by Dave A
                          Or register a company, rent premises and organize utilities etc. What a schlep just to have a formal local presence!

                          I did wonder if opening an HSBC or Citibank Rand account would face the same hurdles, but it's outside of my experience.
                          Its a big big issue as of now, hopefully in few months i can do a joint venture with someone located locally, if i'm unable to get the office thingy sorted.

                          Originally posted by Dave A
                          Yep - I smell some talent there. There may be a fit between the two of you.
                          Don't want to say what i can do etc, but yeah want to prove myself desperately. I want my customers to say this.

                          Thanks Everybody for your input.
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                          • Wiz
                            Full Member

                            • May 2013
                            • 76

                            #14
                            I'm really thankful to all of you guys who helped me to get started in SA.

                            Progress so far :
                            Site on the front page of Google.co.za for SEO services, affordable seo services, seo professional, affordable seo and on 2nd page for SEO Company and i can see some traffic bump already.
                            Goal is to provide customer satisfaction at primary level.

                            Also I'm a bit worried about the leads which are contacting us, their budget is on a lower side and providing them with quality services is really challenging.

                            So we are restricted to very few customers already.
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                            • IanF
                              Moderator

                              • Dec 2007
                              • 2680

                              #15
                              Originally posted by Wiz
                              Also I'm a bit worried about the leads which are contacting us, their budget is on a lower side and providing them with quality services is really challenging.

                              So we are restricted to very few customers already.
                              Welcome to SA business, you will find the customers who will pay a fair price but it takes time.
                              I was told that if you get a customer on price alone you will lose that customer to someone who is cheaper. So keep plugging the benefits.
                              Only stress when you can change the outcome!

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