Xenephobia

[tec0]

You are correct but you can sign someone on as being a semi permanent employee. Casino’s and the Iron and Steel industry love this contract because they can let you go for whatever reason. Secondly you can have people on a permanent short term base contracts. Sub contractors are doing this as we speak, because it is cheaper for them to be able to let you go then what it is to go and sit at the CCMA every-time they need to get rid of someone. I can think of two massif companies that is doing this at the moment!

But if it is illegal please point it out!!! You will help so many people

But I have to agree with you it is not right.

Labour brokers are like a hidden tax on any contractor because they take a massif chunk out of your earnings every month! And your money is always late. Companies like to use labour brokers because they can get rid of anyone they don’t like for any reason! Basically labour brokers strip an employee of his/her rights and that is why the unions are out to boil labour brokers.

[Dave S]

You can't keep renewing short term contracts - they are then considered to be permanent employees. This is also why the unions are up in arms about labour broking.

We have discussed this with the employee, and, of course, his Union rep. The contract is a once-off and as it was explained is to give both parties the opportunity to assess A) If the employee can adequately perform the tasks as per the new position. B) If the salary suits the workload/responsibility. C) The employee is comfortable with the arrangement. D) Buys the time to create/institute proper training modules.

Point D is very important as in the industry there are no training modules available, for instance, we have no SETA or Education institution where we can sign an employee to train in his field as it is unique to only the Sports Turfing industry, even Government doesn't recognise the industry. This, in itself, makes it a very difficult task, and when you have an employee with an attitude problem, where he wants to be trained before he will even try, makes it even more difficult, which if analysed is actually quite right, why should he be expected to perform tasks for which he was not trained? Unfortunately, all those that have done the same tasks before him have had to learn via hands-on experience, myself included.

So, yes, it is not a pefect solution (or world) and we would much rather try to find a permanent solution, but a bad attitude is not going to help at all. Unions are not prepared to listen or try to understand the problem, all they want is that the employee must be given more money and when he can't perform the tasks they will just claim he wasn't trained, or was victimised, etc.

[tec0]

Ask your legal advisor about “in house training� this is done if the industry is not officially recognised. Design a training module and certification and note that it is for that type of work only. This will allow you the ability to “train� your workers and create the opportunity for better payment.

I know his system is possible; a lot of large companies do this, especially when it comes to “production lines�. They have their own systems emplace. See these “production lines� are completely unique to that company and the training modules are useless else ware.

Your training modules must always include health and safety, equipment training and just basic CPR. The safety and CPR training will allow for “external training at Suitable facilities. Equipment training may also have existing training facilities. The job training itself is unique to your industry, and this will allow you to create and maintain your own training modules within the company. But again you will need legal advice because it needs to be done right first time around.

[adrianh]

We helped the Zim staff to move from the township to a flat nearby. In effect the Zim staff have moved up in life due to the local threats - Suck on that lazy locals!

[Superscenic]

We employed Zim labour on a Pre-world cup thing (I wont say what exactly), but the parody of an all Zim crew wearing SA flag T shirts on a big parade for a country whose ruling tribe sets them on fire...?!

What was so refreshing was the gratitude from guys glad to get a job. Gratitude? Remember being shown gratitude? Remember when beggars thanked you for small change? vaguely? Well It was a new experience for me.

"Xenophobia: an unreasonable fear or hatred of foreigners or strangers or of that which is foreign or strange."

I Hate the use of this EUPHEMISM to describe Genocide/atrocity and the most vile and barbaric behavior.

[leuce]

His new JS now itemises almost every task he must perform and includes the clause "and other reasonable tasks as may be required from time to time"...

I was under the impression that a contract of service (i.e. employment, as opposed to freelancing) by default includes "other reasonable tasks" anyway. So I'm not sure what additional force this extra clause might have above that which the type of contract already implies.

[Dave S]

By default, it is implied that by signing an employee to a permanent position, "all reasonable tasks" would be covered. But by adding this as a statement it is no longer implied but expected. Don't forget we're dealing with a bad attitude and a union member. Yes, I'm also not too sure it will have any more weight that a simply contract anyway.

On the feedback side, this chap seems to be settling now, although it's only been half a month, his work performance has improved and we have sent him for some additional training from an outside source, maybe, just maybe, there is some light at the end of the tunnel...

[Butch Hannan]

Should we be surprised that Xenephobia is rearing its ugly head again. The world cup has come and gone and what has changed. Nothing.

[Dave A]

The world cup has come and gone and what has changed. Nothing.

It's going to be a crying shame if that's really true - the ubuntu/bonhomie during the World Cup was truly a pleasure.

[tec0]

Any event that is multi profitable for government will enjoy security and attention above all else. The truth is after the world cup violent crime shot up and the criminal aggressors are now just murdering and torturing their victims to a degree where one can no longer consider them criminal but just sadistic serial killers. Our police are none existent and things are now heading to a total collapse.

If anything the world cup event just speeded up the process. UN intervention is probably our only hope, but there lack of interest is alarming. Can it be that the conspiracy about the UN is actually true? Time will tell...