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    Quote Originally Posted by michaelson View Post
    Hi guys can anyone help me with this question ?

    Calculate the area of two core PVC copper cable of a DC supply
    100 cell battery with full capacity of 250A/hour
    Total internal resistance per cell 0.011 ohm
    Total of battery pole connectors 1 ohm
    Pscc = 92.522A
    Length of conductor 100M
    Let me take a go at this....feel free to correct me anyone...

    PSCC = Eb / Rbbr , where Eb is the open circuit voltage of the batteries, and Rbbr is the total resistance of the network in ohms incl. internal resistance of battery and resistance of conductors.

    So...

    Lets calculate Eb first of all ;

    Eb = 1.05 x Number of cells x 2V (page 272 in your Sans 10142)
    = 1.05 x 100 x 2
    = 210V

    Next lets try to calculate Rbbr ;

    Rbbr = (0,9 x Resistance of the battery) + Resistance of the battery connections + Resistance of the conductors (page 272/3 Sans 10142)
    = (0,9 x 0,011 x 100 (there's 100 cells in this battery) ) + 1 + 2(x/1000 x 100m) - this is because there are 2 conductors and you need to find the Resistance value using Table E1 the 3rd column for DC circuits on page 307 of Sans 10142
    = 1,99 + 1 + 2(x/10) simplify the equation in brackets - 1000 / 100 = 10
    = 2,99 + 2(x/10) -- NOTE : we cannot find the resistance using table E1 as yet, as we do not know the size of the conductors -- this is what we are asked to calculate in the question

    Using the information we now have, we substitute it into the original equation and solve....

    PSCC = Eb / Rbbr
    therefore,
    95,522 = 210 / (1,99 + 2(x/10))
    therfore,
    1,99 + 2(x/10) = 210 / 95,522
    1,99 + 2(x/10) = 2,198
    2(x/10) = 2,198 - 1,99
    2(x/10) = 0,208
    x/10 = 0,208 / 2
    x/10 = 0,104
    x = 1,04 ohms

    Now, using Table E1 on page 307 of Sans 10142, we look up the value of 1,04 ohms in the copper conductor column, which falls between 16mm and 25mm conductor size,
    therefore,
    we should choose the 25mm cable to be safe.

    I hope this answers your question.

    Regards

    Simon

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    Quote Originally Posted by Master Electrician View Post
    You wanted old exam papers. Paper 2.
    http://www.theforumsa.co.za/articles/IE-past-paper.pdf
    http://www.theforumsa.co.za/articles/P2-Apr07-IE.pdf
    http://www.theforumsa.co.za/articles/P2-Nov07-IE.pdf
    http://www.theforumsa.co.za/articles/P2-Aug09-IE.pdf
    Thanks to DaveA for doing the deed.

    My only desire for doing this, is to empower competent electricians.
    Guys, take your trade very seriously.
    It is regulated by law.
    Take the time to study the regulations.
    Write the exams.
    It's over to you.
    Hi Can please let me know who assit me with Master Installation rules Regulations and standards.
    A Hard copy to download for free.pieter.vanniekerk@debeersgroup.com

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    Hi
    I need some help I wana study Installtion rules 1 and two, A guy posted ealier a study guide. I need all help that I can get. I want to pass on my first attempt.

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    C O C

    How much do you normally charge for signing a C O C.

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    Thanks for the help guys

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    COC

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    How much do you normally charge for signing a C O C.
    I would Imagine you would have to charge for all of the testing too.

    I do not think one should just sign any COC without testing checking it personally.

    If everything is installed and ready to test...? I have heard figures of R2000 for a normal size house.

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    We don't actually charge for the signature itself on the CoC's we issue
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    Hi guys i just registered yesterday for paper 1 please help me with quastion papers and memos its very difficult to get axcees of materials where i am please please at work they are pushing me to to pass before the end of the year otherwise pls pls any help will be much appreciated my email is : sidneykhetsi@yahoo.com

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    Quote Originally Posted by sidneykhetsi View Post
    Hi guys i just registered yesterday for paper 1 please help me with quastion papers and memos its very difficult to get axcees of materials where i am please please at work they are pushing me to to pass before the end of the year otherwise pls pls any help will be much appreciated my email is : sidneykhetsi@yahoo.com
    I know this thread is getting rather long now, and it is no doubt quite a few pages back that i posted the link to my exam papers...
    Here it is again for those of you looking for a pretty comprehensive list of past papers to study off of.
    The list is most of the past 10 years except for 2013 i think.
    Good luck to you all. I passed with a B in both papers using past papers studying alone. No courses or classes. It is possible. Study hard though. This is no walk in the park.
    Peace
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    https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/...02007-2012.rar

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    Thanks Si, I'm sure the info will be greatly appreciated by many.

    For those who have slow or expensive internet I'd point out that the download is around 20mb.
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