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    Claiming UIF - Best option

    Good Morning,

    We have a very loyal employee that is leaving the company. What is the best reason to put on the UI19 for him to get as much as possible for as long as possible from them?

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    If he resigned, he resigned.
    Any other reason would be fraudulent.
    Anthony Sterne

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    Quote Originally Posted by sterne.law@gmail.com View Post
    If he resigned, he resigned.
    Any other reason would be fraudulent.
    I don't see anywhere that he resigned.
    Could be leaving due to health issues. Maybe due to failing health he needs to be retrenched as he can no longer carry out the duties as stipulated in his contract.
    Maybe the nature of the job has changed to such an extent he is no longer qualified to fulfil the position and there are no other open positions he can fill.
    Resignation is not the only way to leave a company and UIF isn't only paid out if you are summarily fired.

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    I suspect Anthony's point is "put down the real reason, or it's fraud". The question did have me wondering, though.

    Is there a summary of all the different benefits claimable anywhere? I know I've looked at the guidelines on the DOL website at times, and although that tells you how to claim and for what, it certainly doesn't frame the extent of the benefit in each instance.

    (Not last time I looked anyway).
    The trouble with opportunity is it normally comes dressed up as work.

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    From DOL:
    Who can claim?
    You cannot claim if you get –
    benefits from the Compensation Fund;
    benefits from an unemployment fund under the Labour Relations Act;
    or if they –
    are suspended from claiming because of fraud;
    quit their job;
    do not report at set dates and times; or
    refuse training and advice.

    Workers can claim if their –
    employers are bankrupt;
    contracts are ended; or if they
    are fired.

    A 2012 guide I have sets the benefits out like this, but they have probably changed:

    Workers who earn less than R 12 478 per month
    You will receive approximately 36%-56% of your average monthly salary from the past 4 years. The
    higher your salary, the lower the percentage that you will get back.

    Workers who earn more than R 12 478 per month
    You will receive a fixed monthly benefit of approximately R4250 - R4550.

    How long you will be able to receive UIF depends on the length of time that you have contributed to
    the fund. You are eligible to receive 1 day worth of benefits for every 6 days that you worked and
    contributed UIF over the past 4 years. The maximum number of days you can claim is 238 days.

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    The original question is clear - we have a very loyal employee who is leaving.....
    And then, what is the best reason WE can put so he can GET as much as possible.
    Please, lets not try fool ourselves, what you are asking is how can I manupulate the system.
    You specifically ask, what is the BEST reason we can put so that he can get as MUCH money for as LONG as possible.

    If his health was poor, the UIF caters for that.
    If retrenching, the UIF caters for that.
    But I appreciate pointing out to me that resignation is not the only way to leave a company.
    Allow me to advance on that, if health is poor that is not a reason to retrench.
    Your post says HE IS leaving, yet you postulate scenarios.
    Rather be honest, he has resigned and you would like him to be able to claim UIF, are there any suggestions because we know that res7gning means no cover.
    Or, although resigned we wantvto term it a retrenchment, are there any risks?

    As to reasons, the UIF form gives you the various reasons - of course not all reasons allow you to ckaim though.
    Anthony Sterne

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    DISCLAIMER The above is merely a comment in discussion form and an open public arena. It does not constitute a legal opinion or professional advice in any manner or form.

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