People that Dont want to work !!!!

[HR Solutions]

I am still trying to get my head around this one. A week or so ago we had a gentleman of around 28 come into our offices to ask us to sign a form ! When asking what the form was about, he told us that he needed three signatures from three different companies. We prompted a bit more and was then told that he was claiming UIF and that they had told him that before he could claim he had to prove that he had tried at three companies for a job and only then if he could not get a job could he claim UIF. I was totally shocked. He had come into a Recruitment company !!! He did not ask us for a job, he did not ask to be put on our books, in case there might just be a job out there ! All he wanted was our sig to say that he had been there looking for a job !!! (Which he had not even done)

[IanF]

The sense of entitlement and lack of ethics always amazes me.

[Dave S]

The sense of entitlement and lack of ethics always amazes me.

Yep, it seems that certain members of society believe that UIF and other "freebies" are an entitlement and require no effort on their part, where do I sign up?

[AndyD]

The sense of entitlement and lack of ethics always amazes me.

It's the same mindset where many employees class their sick leave allowance as standard holiday entitlement. I even had one guy a couple of years ago wanting to get paid out for 3 days he was still 'entitled to take sick' but hadn't.
This was the same employee who handed in his resignation out of the blue one day. A week after he finished I got a call from him wanting his position back because he thought he could claim UIF for 6 months but alas it didn't pan out as planned for him.

[tec0]

It's the same mindset where many employees class their sick leave allowance as standard holiday entitlement. I even had one guy a couple of years ago wanting to get paid out for 3 days he was still 'entitled to take sick' but hadn't.
This was the same employee who handed in his resignation out of the blue one day. A week after he finished I got a call from him wanting his position back because he thought he could claim UIF for 6 months but alas it didn't pan out as planned for him.

I find that a good introduction to the policies of the company can have a positive result. Example in the introduction you can explain how leave works how sick leave works as well as the conditions for UIF if they resign. The situation would have been avoided. It is very important to state clearly what the role of the employee is what your expectations are what the Procedures are. That way you can eliminate a lot of problems.

Also they can sign off on it and then you have a very nice document to back you up as an employer and the employee have guidelines that she/he can follow thus helping your company to function in an effective manner.

As for the man that wanted the signatures, yes you do get that. A lot of people want to abuse the system. That said if the responsible enitiy did a followup I am sure HR Solutions would have confirmed that the man was there but that he didn't came asking for a job or even handed in a CV. Then the abuser could have been blacklisted. Sadly most of the time they don't check up on the info on the forms.

[Dave A]

I find that a good introduction to the policies of the company can have a positive result. Example in the introduction you can explain how leave works how sick leave works as well as the conditions for UIF if they resign. The situation would have been avoided. It is very important to state clearly what the role of the employee is what your expectations are what the Procedures are. That way you can eliminate a lot of problems.

It doesn't stop the undermining of all that effort back home, though.

"Nay - they're just telling you all that stuff so that you'll turn up to work and make them rich. Now listen, this is how you work the system....
It's your right! And there's fokal they can do about it."

I tell you, those little birdies chirping in the ear can turn a perfectly good employee into a nightmare.

[HR Solutions]

It doesn't stop the undermining of all that effort back home, though.

"Nay - they're just telling you all that stuff so that you'll turn up to work and make them rich. Now listen, this is how you work the system....
It's your right! And there's fokal they can do about it."

I tell you, those little birdies chirping in the ear can turn a perfectly good employee into a nightmare.

A bit of sanity prevails.

[AndyD]

I tell you, those little birdies chirping in the ear can turn a perfectly good employee into a nightmare.

That's my experience as well, one bad apple in the barrel and all of a sudden the whole dynamic of the entire workforce can change. We had this and unfortunately no amount of education or civilised duscussion and reasoning can make the blindest bit of difference.

[solweb]

I am still trying to get my head around this one. A week or so ago we had a gentleman of around 28 come into our offices to ask us to sign a form ! When asking what the form was about, he told us that he needed three signatures from three different companies. We prompted a bit more and was then told that he was claiming UIF and that they had told him that before he could claim he had to prove that he had tried at three companies for a job and only then if he could not get a job could he claim UIF. I was totally shocked. He had come into a Recruitment company !!! He did not ask us for a job, he did not ask to be put on our books, in case there might just be a job out there ! All he wanted was our sig to say that he had been there looking for a job !!! (Which he had not even done)

I pass a particular intersection, every week day. There are usually two guys there most days, one sells fruit and one stands with a board asking for handouts. The Fruit Seller is making an effort and I will support him - the guy will have to walk on hot coals before I will give him a cent.

There are jobs out there, at one stage Cape Town employed people to sweep the steets, the Big Issue empowers vendors seeling the Magazine and of course you can always sell fruit or vegatables to motorists - why else are there so many foriegners lieveing in South Africa!

[HR Solutions]

One of our biggest problems in our industry is finding people that want to work, people that have the correct qualifications etc and don't BS their way thro an interview etc etc.